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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:49 pm    Post subject: disturbutor drive gear Reply with quote

would my mtr. 1641 run if the dist. gear is one notch off? the degree marks bounce when i try to set timing w/timeing light
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if its off by 1 tooth, it shouldnt matter as long as you are at tdc and pointing at number 1.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bounce you see on the timing mark is related to mechanical inaccuracies with the present system. Crank fire is more accurate. You could have worn out parts also.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

X2. You need a more accurate distributor. Find a german 009 or as a seco dary a brazil unit. They seem to do best as far as 009s go. Or as mentioned, crankfire is an accurate system.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is possible that the dist drive wasn't shimmed correctly to mesh with the bronze crank gear.

Excessive lash will cause spark bounce...

That is why I install the distributor drive / distributor in the case half and adjust it as needed before I assemble the case halves.

If you install the drive after the case is assembled... Well, you myswell go buy a gerbil and put it in yer pocket. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does anyone know the spec for how much play the drive gear should have? I've read .020" for the up/down movement but what about backlash?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how could i check if dist. gear is off proprer place?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put motor at TDC, remove distributor and look at where the gear position is. If I remember correct it should be from left to right on the side closest to front of car. It doesnt' matter if it is off unless you have a distributor with the 3rd cylinder retard. Just check your timing and make sure at TDC the rotor is at the correct cylinder on the distributor.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is probably fine. What type of timing light do you use? I have an old craftsman that does that, jumping thing. Time it with a regular bulb so you know it is right then check with timing light. Is it running weird?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its a acutron,silver'pistol type.the dist. is a cb magna spark2, don't know if it retardes #3?.i droped the shaft in after i assembled the case,angled toward fuel pump stud.in the"how to rebuild your vw book it says(TYPE 1)the line is 90deg. from parting line.offset to flywheel.if thats correct i didn't do that,and it runs,but does feel like i'm getting half the power i should.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I purchased the super dupper "pro" digital advance light and it is a piece of junk with a points distributor. Timing shown jumps all over the place when reved. I use my simple Sears light with a dial and timing is ( within reason )rock steady.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got the dist. shaft wrong position-i'll redo it and report!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read that the little spring that goes in the center of the drive prevents timing from jumping around.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vw moses wrote:
i got the dist. shaft wrong position-i'll redo it and report!


It doesn't really matter what way the drive is in as long as your distributor is turned right. With some distributors you can only turn them so far before they hit something. The CB Magnaspark can turn all the way around UNLESS you have certain stock fuel pumps or it hits the carb linkage.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remove the distributor.... Remove the little spring.....

Take a large screwdriver and engage the slot in the top of the drive.

Rock the drive back and forth...

If it has any more than a slight clearance in the gear mesh.... It is excessive.

You want just enough clearance for oil to lubricate it.

Re-doing it with the engine assembled is a pain in the ass, but can be done.

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