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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used sump heaters on several vw's back in the 60's and 70's. 6 volts, straight weight oil and -40`F were not a good mix. Never had one fail or get damaged. Oh yes and the in car 110 v heater was also standard equipment. Even the B2 would take a while to blow hot at -40. Don't miss that one bit.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wasn't that cold out this morning but I decided to try out the heater. I used the IR gun on the sump plate and sump itself, both at 29*. I turned on the heater for 1 hour and this is what I got. Heating element was 220*, sump plate 204* and the side of the sump was 59*. I turned it over with the first hit of the key, there was no starter drag and it sounded much happier as it came to life. Thanks to all who posted. I think this was a good $32.99 investment.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It wasn't the foldout this morning but I decided to try out the heater. I used the IR gun on the sump plate and sump itself, both at 29*. I turned on the heater for 1 hour and this is what I got. Heating element was 220*, sump plate 204* and the side of the sump was 59*. I turned it over with the first hit of the key, there was no starter drag and it sounded much happier as it came to life. Thanks to all who posted. I think this was a good $32.99 investment.


Thanks for the definitive report.
If $32.95 makes your VW happy then you're ahead of a lot of us.
Don't forget to remove the extension cord before you leave the house.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't forget to remove the extension cord before you leave the house.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

richparker wrote:
It wasn't that cold out this morning but I decided to try out the heater. I used the IR gun on the sump plate and sump itself, both at 29*. I turned on the heater for 1 hour and this is what I got. Heating element was 220*, sump plate 204* and the side of the sump was 59*. I turned it over with the first hit of the key, there was no starter drag and it sounded much happier as it came to life. Thanks to all who posted. I think this was a good $32.99 investment.


Thanks for the follow up Rich. I think it was indeed a GREAT $32 dollar investment.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I got to digging around in my parts and here's what I found. Top is a T4 heater made by Cdn Gen. Electric and bottom is a Pyroil heater made in Canada and sold through VW dealers. So if it gets really cold (unlikely here) I'm prepared.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a 200watt VW type 4-engine oil heater made in Canada by Pryoil.
The instructions say to install on engine case studs and secure with new nuts.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like kinda similar to the Kats I bought. The mounting is different but overall idea is the same . I like mine, it works well. It wouldn't hurt to try it, I don't think it alone will fix your problem but it will make cold starts easier on the engine. I would use 10/30 in the winter and switch to a better grade gas. It will burn cleaner and leave less water behind to contaminate the oil, I run 91 in my bus.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

richparker wrote:
Looks like kinda similar to the Kats I bought. The mounting is different but overall idea is the same . I like mine, it works well. It wouldn't hurt to try it, I don't think it alone will fix your problem but it will make cold starts easier on the engine. I would use 10/30 in the winter and switch to a better grade gas. It will burn cleaner and leave less water behind to contaminate the oil, I run 91 in my bus.


Unless your gas has less hydrogen in it than regular gas it will make the same amount of water.

For people who only need a block heater for one or two nights a year then a magnetic block heater works pretty well. Of course if you have a Type 1 and you have replaced the original steel cover over the pickup screen with an aluminium cover the magnet will not have anything much to adhere to.
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