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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
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Brian Samba Moderator
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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Not like I'm going to be able to go fast enough to seriously damage those anyways _________________ Wash your hands
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
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Brian Samba Moderator
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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I think you would be just fine Brian. It would take a pretty big jolt on the steering (side swiping a curb at a decent speed for example) to bend the ends. Because the exposed ends are pretty short, they are going to be pretty stiff and not likely to bend. It's the whole slender column principle at work. Long slender columns are more likely to buckle under load than short ones of the same diameter. _________________ 1800 Type 4 Berrien 295
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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
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I don't know why I haven't read this before? You made an interesting read. I haven't finished yet, but I can't wait to ask a question.
You refer a lot to modifying steering components with welded on gussets and brackets. My question is, I've heard that heating up steering components is a bad idea- at what point does welding all these reinforcements start to degrade the original parts? Or is the fact that your adding reinforcement suddenly cancel out the weakening of the component? _________________ Brian H.
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OrangeCrushER Berrien Warrior 2.4L Quad4
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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:22 am Post subject: |
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Brian wrote: |
dirtkeeper wrote: |
You say you made the insert piece 2x the length of the tie rod ends shorter. The first time I did mine with a insert about 2 " short...... It bent right there . |
I'm in fear I made mine too short.
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I'm about to redo the front of my baja as well and I think the sleeve over sounds like a more convenient solution than the inner rod since I will be having someone else align the car and trying to guess how far the ends will be screwed in sounds sketchy.
I bet a sleeve over will help protect that rod from adjustment damage in the future as well. I know the rods I got on there got pretty chewed up along the shafts by all my messing around with them last summer with a pipe wrench. Can't wait! _________________ Brian H.
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Brian Samba Moderator
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:23 am Post subject: |
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If you go outer, do it longer than I did. Go almost all the way up to the little slits on the end. _________________ Wash your hands
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Vanapplebomb Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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ORANGECRUSHer wrote: |
I don't know why I haven't read this before? You made an interesting read. I haven't finished yet, but I can't wait to ask a question.
You refer a lot to modifying steering components with welded on gussets and brackets. My question is, I've heard that heating up steering components is a bad idea- at what point does welding all these reinforcements start to degrade the original parts? Or is the fact that your adding reinforcement suddenly cancel out the weakening of the component? |
Stock spindles are forged and heat treated as one piece. Welding will take some of the temper out locally which does soften the metal around the weld. That said, by welding in gussets you can increase the overall rigidity of the component. Just don't kill the steering knuckles with heat. Take your time and weld it small sections rather than all on one shot. It won't hurt it any. _________________ 1800 Type 4 Berrien 295
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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
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Question:
On later style boxes, is there a trick to getting these two pieces apart?
I can't tell if the threaded adjuster coming out of the lid is actually threaded in the lid or if I can just hammer it through. _________________ Brian H.
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