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-Zodiac- Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2014 Posts: 782 Location: Pensacola/milton, florida
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:48 am Post subject: Shaking/chattering gear stick |
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I've been having this problem with the 73, whenever I'm in third or fourth gear the gear stick shakes quite a bit, enough to make it chatter. Drives me crazy, and I can put my hand on it to make it stop, but is there a simple solution that will solve this problem? _________________ 1973 karmann ghia - current, not the last VW.
1947 Chevy stylemaster - gone, but not forgotten.
1995 Ford F-150 - gone, hatred for it lives. |
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CiderGuy Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2013 Posts: 1351 Location: Bucks County, Pa
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:58 am Post subject: |
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When you did your carpet, did you move the shift plate that is under the boot ? _________________ ----------------------
Cars Currently Owned:
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-Zodiac- Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2014 Posts: 782 Location: Pensacola/milton, florida
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Nah, just moved it alittle so I could find first easier. Also I noticed the problem before that, but it seemed intermittent. _________________ 1973 karmann ghia - current, not the last VW.
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ccihon Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2012 Posts: 227 Location: Columbus, OH
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Verify your shift rod bushing and clip in the tunnel, plus the shift coupler at rear are all in position and good shape. The coil spring that is compressed with the shifter installation also need to be in place. Further, it helps to have heavy grease applied to the shift ball and cup, and of course, the shifter bolts through the plate fastened tightly. I recall this was actually an issue with some of these cars as new from the factory. It won't rattle at rest if it is supported and can't move around. Also, the smoother the engine is running and the better the engine and transmission mounts isolate the vibration, the less rattle you have. |
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KGCoupe Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2005 Posts: 3580 Location: Putting the "ill" and "annoy" in Illinois
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:00 am Post subject: |
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ccihon wrote: |
Verify your shift rod bushing and clip in the tunnel, plus the shift coupler at rear are all in position and good shape. The coil spring that is compressed with the shifter installation also need to be in place. Further, it helps to have heavy grease applied to the shift ball and cup, and of course, the shifter bolts through the plate fastened tightly. I recall this was actually an issue with some of these cars as new from the factory. It won't rattle at rest if it is supported and can't move around. Also, the smoother the engine is running and the better the engine and transmission mounts isolate the vibration, the less rattle you have. |
Along that same train of thought, is it also possible that having a poorly balanced wheel might transmit extra vibrations to the shifter and cause it to rattle? |
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-Zodiac- Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2014 Posts: 782 Location: Pensacola/milton, florida
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:02 am Post subject: |
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I shall verify those items this week, I would like to think my engine runs pretty smooth, the mounts looked good. Maybe a wheel? If I recall one of them in the rear needs the camber adjusted. It occurs at higher speeds, on smooth roads, the lever its self just moves left to right pretty rapidly - I don't notice any major vibrations. But will pay more attention on the next drive _________________ 1973 karmann ghia - current, not the last VW.
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ccihon Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2012 Posts: 227 Location: Columbus, OH
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:14 am Post subject: |
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I once pulled a shifter to find the tunnel stuffed with bubble wrap - an effort, I think, to quiet the rattle! |
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60ragtop Bonneville Belt Bitch
Joined: March 13, 2006 Posts: 7800 Location: Big Wonderful WYO 82401
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:35 am Post subject: |
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check the bushing the screw goes thru, they wear where they go thru the shift rod and will rattle _________________ Rick
Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
ASA certified in 1987
Certified Hunter Wheel Alignment Master Technician 1986
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I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked |
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-Zodiac- Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2014 Posts: 782 Location: Pensacola/milton, florida
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Here's mine, I don't exactly know what it looks like when worn - so maybe someone will be able to tell right off.
_________________ 1973 karmann ghia - current, not the last VW.
1947 Chevy stylemaster - gone, but not forgotten.
1995 Ford F-150 - gone, hatred for it lives. |
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c21darrel Samba Member
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-Zodiac- Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2014 Posts: 782 Location: Pensacola/milton, florida
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Play in the screw or play in general? Because it has a good amount of play in each gear _________________ 1973 karmann ghia - current, not the last VW.
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c21darrel Samba Member
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CiderGuy Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2013 Posts: 1351 Location: Bucks County, Pa
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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When I was 17 my best friend ( who became a very well paid super mechanic ) and I replaced the shift coupler on a 63 bug I owned. He still says it was one of the hardest small jobs he has ever done. I recall it taking us most of the day. Lost the spring/clip in the tunnel .....
There were no Bentley manuals that I knew of at the time, someone showed you how to do it, or you just winged it. _________________ ----------------------
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1970 Karmann Ghia Convertible (Body off restoration)
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Joined: September 22, 2014 Posts: 782 Location: Pensacola/milton, florida
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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I have a spair shift rod and coupler - it just needs new ruber. Can I get just the ruber, or should I just buy a whole new coupler? _________________ 1973 karmann ghia - current, not the last VW.
1947 Chevy stylemaster - gone, but not forgotten.
1995 Ford F-150 - gone, hatred for it lives. |
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c21darrel Samba Member
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-Zodiac- Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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I was mainly concerned about quality but if I can pic one up at my flaps I'll go for it. _________________ 1973 karmann ghia - current, not the last VW.
1947 Chevy stylemaster - gone, but not forgotten.
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-Zodiac- Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2014 Posts: 782 Location: Pensacola/milton, florida
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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This morning I cranked up the ghia and it was chattering at an idle - it stopped after I let it idle a bit more, and after driving it it went away. Can anything drastic happen while driving? I'm relying on the car tomorrow, and Monday. After that I'm taking out the shift rod, replacing the coupler if needed, greasing the hell out of Everything, and replacing the bushing(still haven't verified that it's in good shape) _________________ 1973 karmann ghia - current, not the last VW.
1947 Chevy stylemaster - gone, but not forgotten.
1995 Ford F-150 - gone, hatred for it lives. |
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c21darrel Samba Member
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-Zodiac- Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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c21darrel wrote: |
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Can anything drastic happen while driving? |
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Hmm..
Sounds terrible, guess I'm walking. _________________ 1973 karmann ghia - current, not the last VW.
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