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bgivens33
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 Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:25 pm Post subject: Brake question (1967) |
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So, I'm rebuilding a 1967 Coupe that had been sitting in a garage for 20 years, then a restoration started 10 years ago, but that only resulted in a few months of driving.
I changed out the oil, battery and put in a new gas tank and it basically turned right over. I drove it around a bit the first day and the brakes were a bit stiff, as in they had pressure but I had to really put some pressure on to get the car to stop. I bled the brakes today and it might have helped a little, but not much. I did not, however, bleed the brakes enough to completely replace the older brake fluid.
So now, I can drive it and it feels safe, but I don't have much faith in a real quick stop if needed (kid runs out in front of the car). I'm not sure if that feeling is just because it is an older car and I'm used to new brakes, or there is something else I should be doing.
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Have you tried pumping them when you stop? Sometimes it takes afew to build up pressure - a sign of a going master cylender. It's also a good Idea to take off the drums and make sure everything is in good shape, shoes, replace the wheel cylinders, and then adjust the brakes.
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motorhead364
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They may take a little more bleeding but yes. Remember they aren't near what your newer car has. No power booster and no discs on front. Also much smaller tires to get the car stopped. If the pedal is spongy and flops around. Bleed the brakes again and maybe spin the adjuster nuts out a couple clicks to get the pads closer to the drum so the pedal will get harder sooner. Jack the car up and spin each tire, adjust the star nuts out until they drag just a hair. Then go for a drive and see if that helped.
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Eric&Barb
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How long has it sat with the old brake fluid in it?
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mlhsquared
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| They may take a little more bleeding but yes. Remember they aren't near what your newer car has. No power booster and no discs on front. Also much smaller tires to get the car stopped. If the pedal is spongy and flops around. Bleed the brakes again and maybe spin the adjuster nuts out a couple clicks to get the pads closer to the drum so the pedal will get harder sooner. Jack the car up and spin each tire, adjust the star nuts out until they drag just a hair. Then go for a drive and see if that helped. |
If he has a '67, it does have discs up front. All else is true though.
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mlhsquared
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motorhead364
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I stand corrected. Didn't think they started discs that early. Good to know.
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bgivens33
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| How long has it sat with the old brake fluid in it? |
Well, I'm really only guessing at what happened 10 years ago, but I feel pretty confident in saying the brake fluid was changed then. |
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bgivens33
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| Thanks motorhead and Zodiac, I will look into both of your suggestions. |
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57BLITZ
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Sitting for twenty years?!?!?
It is now time for NEW rubber flex hoses!!!
Put in new hoses before you do any more bleeding!
I chased my tail replacing calipers and doing a bunch of work on my '68 before noticing that the flex hoses that LOOKED FINE on the outside had swollen closed on the inside!
BTW . . . looks like you found a real nice Ghia for yourself . . . all the best with your project!
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