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northernopposition
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 Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:47 pm Post subject: Engine Weight |
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Easy question for someone out there: Approximately how much does a complete (sans muffler?) 2.1 weigh? Contemplating shipping instead of a long drive to pick up.
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insyncro
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| 475lbs palletized, in my experience. |
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northernopposition
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Perfect. Thank you. |
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thummmper
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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has anyone weighed the 4 speed trans--late vanagon? at least 100lbs, right?
I have a conversion power kit weight for my upgrade, but not for the 2.1/ taxle kit. I suspect my new equipment outweighs the volksy kit by 200.. |
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jsmitch11
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| thummmper wrote: |
has anyone weighed the 4 speed trans--late vanagon? at least 100lbs, right?
I have a conversion power kit weight for my upgrade, but not for the 2.1/ taxle kit. I suspect my new equipment outweighs the volksy kit by 200.. |
If I remember right the syncro transmission was a little over 90 and the 2wd was less. I have lugged both around and they are less then 100
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Jake de Villiers
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Fritz
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:16 pm Post subject: Shipping Companies |
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| Any suggestions on who to use to ship a Vanagon engine? |
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SL12572
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| I'm not sure if they are located in your area, but I've been very happy with Old Dominion freight. They actually give you a call in advance to let you know when they will arrive and actually care when loading parts. |
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xoo00oox
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| I have been using Uship to send CHC camper roof kits with great results. Very easy to deal with and very good prices. |
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IdahoDoug
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How about any body know weight of just the block sans heads? Its down to the case, pistons/cams still in, oil pan on, but no intake manifold, no heads, no exhaust, mustache bar off (making custom hitch), and pulley still on. Trying to decide if my steel shelving can handle it as it would save valuable floor space. Tx.
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borninabus
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I could check for you tomorrow, Doug.
I have a few engines broken down right now.
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IdahoDoug
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Thanks! I bow in your general direction because that must mean you have the muscle to move the thing around and get an approximate weight!! That is my problem - too many years of sports, and bike crashes mean I have an uneasy truce with my back. It will do pretty much whatever I ask athletically, but I have learned what not to ask of it in return for its tolerance of my lifestyle.
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xoo00oox
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morymob
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| Is this without f-wheel?? |
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xoo00oox
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| Is this without f-wheel?? |
yes, without flywheel or flexplate its about 148 lbs. |
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tencentlife
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| IdahoDoug wrote: |
| Its down to the case, pistons/cams still in, oil pan on... |
I'll bet you can pick it up if you take that oil pan off.
I ship longblocks including f/w, pulley, w/p, and intake manifold at 260# in a crate that weighs about 40#. And that's deliberately overspec 10-20# to avoid paying overages. So 150# for a shortblock sans f/w sounds right to me.
Not every piece of LTL freight gets weighed every time but it's not unusual for a shipper to weigh it and fudge it higher so they can hit you with an overage. Overage charges are many times higher than it would have cost to write the BOL with the higher weight at the beginning, so if you ship a lot, as I do, it's better to pad up the weight a bit as a matter of routine. On LTL, charges are based much more on volume that weight, so changing the weight of a crate of fixed dimensions (volume) doesn't change the rate charged at all within a pretty liberal range, but if your submitted weight is under the actual weigh-in, or the fudged weigh-in, it can cost you.
These days it's unwise to choose a shipper in advance, because there are online brokerages where you can submit a request to many shippers and receive ranked bids in seconds from an automated bidding system. I've used www.freightcenters.com for 8 years now and have been very pleased with the service.
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