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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been a while since you had the seats reupholstered & interior panels created, right? How did they turn out? Silver-Beige vinyl with Silver cloth inserts?
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's been a while since you had the seats reupholstered & interior panels created, right? How did they turn out? Silver-Beige vinyl with Silver cloth inserts?


That's whole other disaster worthy of its own thread. Short version: I met this upholstery guy via a local hotrod club. His dad had a shop for years, has since died, and he's taking over. I saw work he'd done on a couple of other cars and it looked nice. I gave the guy the seats, they're supposed to be done in a week - two weeks max. Several weeks go by and he has one seat sorta kinda in progress, but lots of things wrong. Months go by with excuse after excuse, finally I just ask for the seats back. They are partially done, but he didn't really get the padding right; if they had any more lumps I'd send them out for chemo. I never got around to getting the door panels done because the seats never got done.

This pic doesn't really show the lumpiness and asymmetry. One top of that, he broke one of the adjuster things on the bottom, and scratched the hell out of the seat frame paint.

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those do actually look pretty lumpy... Sad
What part of the adjuster got broke?
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Those do actually look pretty lumpy... Sad
What part of the adjuster got broke?


The weld broke where the fore-aft slider lever holder attaches.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Those do actually look pretty lumpy... Sad
What part of the adjuster got broke?


The weld broke where the fore-aft slider lever holder attaches.


Ouch! Is it fixable?
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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thom wrote:
VeeDubWolf wrote:
Those do actually look pretty lumpy... Sad
What part of the adjuster got broke?


The weld broke where the fore-aft slider lever holder attaches.


Ouch! Is it fixable?


Absolutely! Just peel back the shitty seat cover and weld it back up.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The replacement 1963 T34

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You have a very clean, original '63. What's the story? Not a pan-up? It has sparked my curiosity, as it appears somebody went to great detail for body/paint (and probably interior) but wanted to maintain some originality to the car by keeping the engine bay original. Ironically, this is the same mission I am trying to accomplish with my '62 Notchback. The engine restoration in this car especially has me going. Did you restore the motor?
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The engine restoration in this car especially has me going. Did you restore the motor?


Yes, I did.

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here's the engine from the 1962 T34

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The engine restoration in this car especially has me going. Did you restore the motor?


Yes, I did.

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There is a difference in the color you used on your fan shroud that is clearly distinct in the factory grey used on your muffler. What made you decide to use this color? Point being, that most engine restorations for Type 3's I've seen, the color used for the shroud is silver or grey.
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is a difference in the color you used on your fan shroud that is clearly distinct in the factory grey used on your muffler. What made you decide to use this color? Point being, that most engine restorations for Type 3's I've seen, the color used for the shroud is silver or grey.


The color I used on the fan shroud is... no color.

On the '62, I used a scotchbrite pad to clean off the oxidation, on the '63, I had it media blasted. Then I rubbed on a light oil to prevent further oxidation, and that was it. They're both unpainted metal. I think the shroud on the '63 looks cleaner, but the '62 looks less sterile.
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Typ311Dave wrote:
There is a difference in the color you used on your fan shroud that is clearly distinct in the factory grey used on your muffler. What made you decide to use this color? Point being, that most engine restorations for Type 3's I've seen, the color used for the shroud is silver or grey.


The color I used on the fan shroud is... no color.

On the '62, I used a scotchbrite pad to clean off the oxidation, on the '63, I had it media blasted. Then I rubbed on a light oil to prevent further oxidation, and that was it. They're both unpainted metal. I think the shroud on the '63 looks cleaner, but the '62 looks less sterile.

Well, I really like what you've done to the '63 motor. The metal on the shroud which you have restored has a gold color to it. I don't know what materials were used to produce this look, but I've only seen it from early photos, and it's rarely duplicated. This is the look I've tried to duplicate on my '62 motor, look familiar?

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, I really like what you've done to the '63 motor. The metal on the shroud which you have restored has a gold color to it. I don't know what materials were used to produce this look, but I've only seen it from early photos, and it's rarely duplicated.


Ah yes, the gold color that all the judges are looking for...
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thom--what type of media was used for blasting? Did you used the same for the engine case?
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thom wrote:
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Well, I really like what you've done to the '63 motor. The metal on the shroud which you have restored has a gold color to it. I don't know what materials were used to produce this look, but I've only seen it from early photos, and it's rarely duplicated.


Ah yes, the gold color that all the judges are looking for...


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Thom--what type of media was used for blasting? Did you used the same for the engine case?


Walnut shells for both
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the effect. Nice job.
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Patched one of the heater box exhaust outlets tonight. I bought some metric tubing; a thin piece to match the original OD, and a thin piece to slip inside, to help line things up and add some support.

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Thom, any chance you remember what size tubing you used?
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Thom, any chance you remember what size tubing you used?


35mm OD, 2mm wall for the outer, 30mm OD, 2mm wall, for the inner
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Thom, any chance you remember what size tubing you used?


35mm OD, 2mm wall for the outer, 30mm OD, 2mm wall, for the inner


Would a part like this work as well on t3/34?
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