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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the inspiration. I've had my '69 for 6 months, and I'm not quite done with the half pans, you're doing just fine on time.
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just measured from the back of the cut to the lowest part of the master cylinder. Used the handy xl spread sheet and it looks like I will have about 1/8 clearance between the pan and the cylinder. So if you don't want to start cutting up stuff don't go more than .75 inch pie cut. I thought I could change out the master but the brake lights need to work so I guess that fixes that. More to come later.
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well got the master cylinder pulled and prepped the the metal.
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Did a pilot cut for the sawzall
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The goods
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Tapped it up for cutting.
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I used the cutting wheel, grinder with a cut off disk and the sawzall. My grinder died after 12 years of hard labor on my project cars. To bad, I am suprized the harbor freight grinder lasted this long. It went up in smoke LOL
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Well can not do much now, have to figure out how to cut the rest. I only have a 2 gallon compressor so the first pilot cut took forever. One thing though, be careful of the fuel line, it was very close. Its very tight for the sawzall but I am sure it would be easier with the body off which I am not going to do. lol Have to pick up the 220 welder from my friend and source some metal for the rear shock mounts. It might be a while for the next update.
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still have to finish up the steering and the front mount tabs on the the body. I think I am finally happy with how it sits. I can still go lower so when I am rolling slow I can drop it static.
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I still have about 2" or more of clearance on the pan
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The front beam has tons of room and no bottoming out. Smile
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The apron does not have much room but its got holes in the bottom of it anyways..
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So few problems popped up kinked fuel line in the tunnel , might have to run whole new one. I also nicked the brake line that goes into the firewall. All I can say is if you have a chance to do this I would do it all over again. I would say that if you have the pan off it would be a lot easier. Also might have raise the fuel tank a little depending on the clearance I have. All for now and I think I am going to blow my $800 budget though. Sad
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow!!! Looks good bro!! Do you have any issues with it rubbing in the front when your turning? It's definitely not hard to blow a budget lol.
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will be able to turn bug def some rubbing. I might go with some different wheels down the road. I might just take some stockers and widen the rears and maybe the front. as far as I can tell its good to roll. I think for freeway driving it will be fine but sharp turns going to have to raise it. I am really interested to see how well it rides after I get it together. Its going to be some time before its gets going again unfortunately.
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went to the woodburn bug show today. Got a window crank wont bore you with that picture.

Got some pop outs! They are pretty old but the glass has roses etched on them. I don't really care they came with the brackets for $20!
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The mega score...$30 I think its 1/2 gallon tank and compressor with relay and cut off switch. It works and pumps up so I was a little nervous about getting it that it might not work. Razz

The stickers are going to have to go.
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I am going to redo the lines prob with something little better but I think it need just to be cleaned up.
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It seems like it was thought out a little bit at least.
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I think the tank is from a refrigerator compressor unit and the compressor from a truck air ride seat. I am only going to run the front air shocks for now so just need a paddle valve and some left over air ride dot hoses and fittings my bro in law has, should work out good. I really need to get moving on this!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steering I think is done. I was lucky to get several hrs on the bug. So I got a subie steering u-joint from a friend. I just cut the center section out and welded it. I should work ok but I really think need a bushing on the shaft at the fire wall. That can come later. I did put two tacks on the bottom just in case. I fitted a rod notched it for the bolt and clamped it with grade 8 bolt. This can all be taken apart if I have to replace the subie joint.
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I also did an alignment. I put the bug up 12" or so off the ground.
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with some jacks under it in case it fell. I pulled two strings measure both side from the car to do toe in. Its close I think but it will be good enough to get me to the alignment shop. I have one caster shim which I think I will put on the top of the beam. I should have done that first but I forgot all about it. I think the next task is the fuel tank fitment. It does not fit so I will have to raise it up. I don't want to cut it up though. I am trying to get everything done so I can move this pig. One of the worst things you can do is not have a car that moves on its own. It works out a lot better when you can move the car in and out of the garage.

As for the pop outs. I got all the tint off of them and they look tons better, except the seals.. LOL Rose vine engravings for the win!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet! Nice work, and thanks for sharing.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I like reading other people threads and learned a lot from them. I am sure I have made some mistakes but I am working through them. I just worked a deal for a 60s roof rack its kinda ugly but I think it will be a killer.. It will be few weeks before I get it. Its not a vw one, its a universal rack. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, you've done a ton of work on this build! Well done! I love the look of the black powder coated wheels
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enjoy this build. Just got the same wheels as yours last week. Probably going to strip them and have them powdercoated black as well. Did yours come with the center caps or did you have to locate them separately?

I may end up doing the pie cut on mine as well at some point but I need to focus on getting it running first.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The caps I got at Cip1. Prob going to get the chrome lugs later though. I wish the offset was different on these, its def tight in the back but I don't think it would be so bad if I was not 3 inner clicks in the back. Razz As far as the pie cut few more things to get done. I have not put in the master brake cylinder either so I know its going to be tight when I put that in. I hope I don't have to make that fit. The fuel tank will have to be raised along with the front body mounts to the front beam.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air shocks are on and I am having a leak. I can not get it to hold air but I will be going to 1/4 lines down the road anyways. Changing out the shock mount sleeves was a royal pain, but I got it done.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the Carter roof rack def needs some work. I did not think it would look to bad but its growing on me. Smile
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Just need to get the pop outs in.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lookin really good. I like the rack. It's not one you typically see on a bug you don't typically see Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The caps I got at Cip1. Prob going to get the chrome lugs later though. I wish the offset was different on these, its def tight in the back but I don't think it would be so bad if I was not 3 inner clicks in the back. Razz As far as the pie cut few more things to get done. I have not put in the master brake cylinder either so I know its going to be tight when I put that in. I hope I don't have to make that fit. The fuel tank will have to be raised along with the front body mounts to the front beam.


Thanks. Ordered me up a set of the caps.

Do you think you can still go with a slightly narrower tire? I probably won't drop mine three clicks (but that's yet to be seen). Even if I do the pie cut I probably won't drop it quite as low as yours but do it to help keep the front suspension in line.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lookin really good. I like the rack. It's not one you typically see on a bug you don't typically see Cool


Yeah its kinda an odd ball you don't see many of them. They still make them but they are not cheap. http://www.classicracks.com/
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The caps I got at Cip1. Prob going to get the chrome lugs later though. I wish the offset was different on these, its def tight in the back but I don't think it would be so bad if I was not 3 inner clicks in the back. Razz As far as the pie cut few more things to get done. I have not put in the master brake cylinder either so I know its going to be tight when I put that in. I hope I don't have to make that fit. The fuel tank will have to be raised along with the front body mounts to the front beam.


Thanks. Ordered me up a set of the caps.

Do you think you can still go with a slightly narrower tire? I probably won't drop mine three clicks (but that's yet to be seen). Even if I do the pie cut I probably won't drop it quite as low as yours but do it to help keep the front suspension in line.


You could prob do a short shock in the rear with two click and be just fine. I am a bit old and really want to have fun with this. As for the front tire you could go smaller. I would not go smaller than a 145. There is a ton of treads on that, you just need to figure out how nice you want it to ride. For me its about fender and tire gap. I hate the small tire and huge gap. There is a kid running 165/45 tire and has like a 8" gap in his fender well. LOL
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zodlaw wrote:

You could prob do a short shock in the rear with two click and be just fine. I am a bit old and really want to have fun with this. As for the front tire you could go smaller. I would not go smaller than a 145. There is a ton of treads on that, you just need to figure out how nice you want it to ride. For me its about fender and tire gap. I hate the small tire and huge gap. There is a kid running 164/45 tire and has like a 8" gap in his fender well. LOL


Haha. Trust me, I'm 49 so I understand a bit old. I'd probably drop mine as low as yours if not for speed bumps in the parking ramp at work. Unless I could do a full bag setup there is no way I'll get over most of them at that height and even at two notches I might be pushing it.

What sizes front and rear are you running now? I was thinking it was your back tire you were having clearance issues with. I'd love to do like a 2" tranny raise as well but don't want to deal with the issues of customizing the engine tins to still seal, etc.
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