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wclark4000
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 Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:21 am Post subject: Dust caps |
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Greetings...
I can't seem to figure out how to remove the dust caps. I have cleared the muck and see the cap and a ring that was peened in three places, and I have frozen myself there in concern that if I just slip a chisel type instrument under the peening it will either work, or destroy an unobtainable part.
Any suggestions?
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jtauxe 
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Does anyone know sources for the bushings and bearings for the torsion arms. The front end on Bluebird (a double cab) was not given proper maintenance by previous owners, and it is all dry and FUBAR in there.
So, are new bearings and bushings available?
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crummytransporter
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Dust caps |
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| wclark4000 wrote: |
Greetings...
I can't seem to figure out how to remove the dust caps. I have cleared the muck and see the cap and a ring that was peened in three places, and I have frozen myself there in concern that if I just slip a chisel type instrument under the peening it will either work, or destroy an unobtainable part.
Any suggestions?
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Have this exact same question. |
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Tcash
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Daveinmn
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Location: Minneapolis
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| Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:15 pm Post subject: Thanks |
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Just replaced all 4 torsion arms as the ball joints were shot. Could not have gone any better, you guys rock.  |
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khalimadeath
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So instead of posting a new thread I figured I would post in here for ideas. So I got it mostly apart, however I cannot get the lower arm out of the knuckle. Ive tried a 2 jaw puller pickle fork and BFG. Lots of penetrating oil.. So now what could I try? I busted my knuckle pretty good. ALSO I have new arms and do not have a bently. Do I need to mark the old ones before I pull them? How do I install the new ones properly? THANKS!
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old DKP driver
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| Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:29 pm Post subject: ball joint stuck |
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Before you get hurt anymore  Pull the speedo cable out and then pull
the trailing arm out of the beam and you will have better luck getting that ball joint out .
No Bentley? do you have a vice mounted on a table? that will help too since
that ball joint is looking pretty damaged.
You also need a long pipe to lift the Upper arm off the rubber stop so it can be removed AFTER you remove the clip.
Leave the grub screws IN UNTIL THE RUBBER STOPS ARE OUT
as for the eccentrics they also will need to pressed off and NOT damaged so you can put them on the exchange arms. NO bOOK Scares me. how about You 
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khalimadeath
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:35 am Post subject: Re: ball joint stuck |
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| old DKP driver wrote: |
Before you get hurt anymore Pull the speedo cable out and then pull
the trailing arm out of the beam and you will have better luck getting that ball joint out .
No Bentley? do you have a vice mounted on a table? that will help too since
that ball joint is looking pretty damaged.
You also need a long pipe to lift the Upper arm off the rubber stop so it can be removed AFTER you remove the clip.
Leave the grub screws IN UNTIL THE RUBBER STOPS ARE OUT
as for the eccentrics they also will need to pressed off and NOT damaged so you can put them on the exchange arms. NO bOOK Scares me. how about You |
Wait what are the grub screws?
What are the eccentrics? The new arms I got i believed to be complete.
I was too cheap to buy the bently and hoped I could find all my answers on the interwebs. This bus is expensive lol |
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Tcash
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lintbrush
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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If you're too cheap to buy Bentley, you may be too cheap to buy this:
But you can rent one. I use a ball joint puller, but since your boots are shot you could easily use this kind of puller to get that lower ball joint out and also your eccentrics stuck to your top ball joint.
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khalimadeath
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Front torsion arm bushings |
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Bookmarked thanks, is the eccentric ring pressed on or removable with wrench? I have access to a press and tools from orileys. Im gonna take the knuckle off with the arm still in it so I can get a better angle on it. |
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lintbrush
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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They are just pressed on. My torsion arms came with new eccentrics. Mine came off pretty easy with the pitman arm puller I posted earlier.
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Tcash
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Front torsion arm bushings |
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| khalimadeath wrote: |
Bookmarked thanks, is the eccentric ring pressed on or removable with wrench? I have access to a press and tools from orileys. Im gonna take the knuckle off with the arm still in it so I can get a better angle on it. |
Does not thread on but is Usually rusted on and requires a puller or press to remove.
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Yarkle
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We did this two? maybe three weeks ago...Pretty much, before we did anything...we just sprayed kroil in each of the knuckles where the ball joint went in, then tapped the bottom of the ball boint with a hammer, for two or three days. when we started dissasembly, the top ones came out pretty easy, the bottoms I had to whack with the pickle fork a few times... do you have the right sized fork?
I find kroil works where other penetrating oils wont.
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khalimadeath
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| Yarkle wrote: |
We did this two? maybe three weeks ago...Pretty much, before we did anything...we just sprayed kroil in each of the knuckles where the ball joint went in, then tapped the bottom of the ball boint with a hammer, for two or three days. when we started dissasembly, the top ones came out pretty easy, the bottoms I had to whack with the pickle fork a few times... do you have the right sized fork?
I find kroil works where other penetrating oils wont. |
i am using Kroil, I have a small pickle fork and may need a bigger one.
Thanks for all the help and tips I am gong to work on it some more today. Im gonna check my new arms to see if the ring came on those. |
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Yarkle
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Yep, if your pickle fork isnt tall enough in profile, it wont provide the leverage to pop the joint off. I think i ended up using both of the ones i had.
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vocho_702
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Front Torsion Bars - HELP |
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| Hey folks, before anyone gives me grief, I know this post is years old but I used the search and it brought me here. I needed to remove my 70 bay’s torsion arms and the uppers were giving me some trouble. Just want to thank everyone that explained it on here, I ended up using the pry bar and pry out method. It made it a flash. Thanks again. |
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mattlockwood
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Front Torsion Bars - HELP |
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My upper torsion arms will not budge. Simply cannot get any movement on them. Grub screws out....
jacking up the arm, and removing the rubber snubber, then releasing the pressure on the jack- this relieves the spring tension?
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mattlockwood
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Front Torsion Bars - HELP |
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Answered my own question. The rubber bumper stop does have to be removed. At least for mine it did. Scary proposition, reaching in there to pull out the rubber stop with the torsion arm jacked up.
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SGKent
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Front Torsion Bars - HELP |
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| mattlockwood wrote: |
| Answered my own question. The rubber bumper stop does have to be removed. At least for mine it did. Scary proposition, reaching in there to pull out the rubber stop with the torsion arm jacked up. |
sort of like playing with a loaded bear trap eh? Made me nervous as all heck. Maybe someone can make a tool......... .
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