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2748photo Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2015 Posts: 55 Location: OC
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:29 am Post subject: |
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nodrenim wrote: |
Way to go, Dude, I'm jealous! Just keep it between the ditches, and cherish it forever! |
Thanks. We'll keep the rubber side down for sure. |
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2748photo Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2015 Posts: 55 Location: OC
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:30 am Post subject: |
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tcolt45 wrote: |
congrats on the new squareback. that is an awesome first car. looks good. |
Thank you . It should be fun. |
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65Nsqback Samba Member
Joined: September 17, 2004 Posts: 1256 Location: Grantsville UT
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Nice... My first car was a 66 square (cal style) and non sunroof your very very lucky on a few levels..I hope Dad got something GREAT for Father's Day 😉 again nice car for sure _________________ Wow look at that THAT'S A "SHOW CAR"!!
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2748photo Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2015 Posts: 55 Location: OC
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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First minor fix.
Airboot put on tonight.
Does anyone know where to find a shift knob for '65?
I also found a steering column with the ignition and key together. I was able to extract the ignition. Next step = wiring and making sure it works and then installing it in the column. |
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soupcups Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2014 Posts: 221 Location: Huntington Beach
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:59 pm Post subject: Nice! |
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That's a great find. Lucky kid. Old enough to work on his first project with pops. I'm in Huntington and I'l be looking out for the kid and his new car. I'm jealous. |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69804 Location: Phoenix Metro
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2748photo Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2015 Posts: 55 Location: OC
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:36 am Post subject: |
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Saw those, but $75 for a shift knob? ouch. I bought one from CIP1 but it doesn't look like it has threads and is bigger than the shifter threads. I am thinking it is 12mm and the shaft is 10mm. As I look around more it seems that 68+ may have a bigger shaft diameter. Does this sound correct? |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69804 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:45 am Post subject: |
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2748photo wrote: |
Saw those, but $75 for a shift knob? ouch. I bought one from CIP1 but it doesn't look like it has threads and is bigger than the shifter threads. I am thinking it is 12mm and the shaft is 10mm. As I look around more it seems that 68+ may have a bigger shaft diameter. Does this sound correct? |
Yes, $75 is high.
I would keep an eye out, they pop up for cheaper.
I was surprised there was only one for sale in the classifieds in the USA right now.
You have a '66 though?
You could buy a '66 shift knob (solid black) for far less.
I don't know on the 68+ size myself, hopefully someone else can answer that. _________________ How to Post Photos
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Erik G Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2002 Posts: 13269 Location: Tejas!
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NorCalTodd2011 Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Auburn, California
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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You should get the best dad ever award. Damn nice first car.
ISP is the best resource for parts. You are certainly in the best area, So Cal, for parts etc. Type 3's are a bit pricey for pieces so make sure you search and ask folks on this forum for help. Feel free to PM me anytime as I have built a few in my time.
Congrats and have fun. VW people are some of the best car people you will meet.
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2748photo Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2015 Posts: 55 Location: OC
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Well, Finally got title transferred this weekend after waiting 2 months. The previous owner had the car registered in AZ. He was getting a CA title and trying to get the black plates re-activated. No such luck on the black plates. According to the DMV, the year of the plates don't match the year of the car. I don't know what this has to do with anything but leave it to California DMV to make it difficult. Fortunately, California just started offering new black "legacy" plates. So we ordered these:
Also, had ordered a rack for the top from Pedro Racks. He makes a 4 footer and a 6 footer. I talked him into making a 5 footer which he had previously done before but stopped. The 5 footer works perfectly with the sunroof. My son and I drove 2 hours down on Sunday to pick it up. It is beautiful and perfect for this ride. Pedro is such a cool guy, I wish I had more time to pick his brain and hang out with him on Sunday.
Now that I have the title transferred, we can kick this build into high gear. Found some steel type 3 wheels that I will be picking up this week and starting to work on the ignition switch rebuild. Pedro helped me out with a kev part for the ignition as well. Next few weeks will be spent sourcing a bunch of parts and then the fun begins. |
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2748photo Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2015 Posts: 55 Location: OC
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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OK, first roadblock of probably many. I am proceeding cautiously because I don't want to screw anything up.
I am trying to wire a stock ignition switch. I have four wires in the current setup and I need to wire three of them. I gave it the first shot and I got the ignition to turn on but it would not fire in the start position.
Here is the current 4 wire setup:
I have a hot wire from the battery. I assume that this goes to position 30 on the new ignition. This was previously wired to a on off switch seen here:
The other side of that switch was going to the fuse block in this position:
I assumed that this was the 15/54 position.
Then I had a momentary push button for the starter here:
I didn't think that I needed the hot wire coming into this once the first switch is thrown to on because in the stock ignition switch it already has power. I don't know where this wire gets it's power from. It leads up under the dash and I haven't fully traced it yet. I will need to in order to disconnect it once I get the stock ignition working.
I took the wire that heads out of the momentary switch to the starter and connected it to the 50 spot on the ignition.
I have 6 volts into position 30 on the ignition at all times, I have 6 volts to 15/54 in the on position.
What have I done wrong? Or is the ignition bad? Thanks guys.[img][/img][img][/img]
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sjbartnik Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Make sure you have 6v to terminal 50 when you turn the key to Start AND you keep the 6V on 15 while the starter is operating.
All the ignition switch is doing is connecting 30 (battery power) to 15 when you turn the key on. That powers up the coil and some of the other electrical equipment. When you turn the key to start you're just connecting 30 to 50 which sends battery power to the solenoid to get the starter going. Once the solenoid trips it sends battery power direct from 30 on the solenoid to the starter motor via the big fat cable from the battery. _________________ 1965 Volkswagen 1500 Variant S
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2748photo Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2015 Posts: 55 Location: OC
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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sjbartnik wrote: |
Make sure you have 6v to terminal 50 when you turn the key to Start AND you keep the 6V on 15 while the starter is operating.
All the ignition switch is doing is connecting 30 (battery power) to 15 when you turn the key on. That powers up the coil and some of the other electrical equipment. When you turn the key to start you're just connecting 30 to 50 which sends battery power to the solenoid to get the starter going. Once the solenoid trips it sends battery power direct from 30 on the solenoid to the starter motor via the big fat cable from the battery. |
Thanks!! That's what I thought as I was interpreting the wiring diagram. I went back out to measure the terminals again. As I was pushing down on the contacts with the ohm meter in the start position, it started. The brown plate on the ignition switch has some flex in it. I don't know if it is because its damaged or without an end cap on putting pressure. There looks to be some damage where someone tried prying on it in a few spots. See the pics:
Here you can see how the brown plate does not sit flush in the ignition housing. It can be pressed flush but doesn't stay there due to the spring pressure underneath
Any thoughts on how to fix it? Should I take it all apart to try to straighten out. I also have another ignition switch housing without the electrical internals and key switch that I could swap it over to. What do you think the best course of action to fix it would be? Thanks again. |
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rosevillain Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2005 Posts: 1289 Location: roseville, ca
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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The housing is crimped in order to hold the plate in place. Probably where it looks like someone pryed on it. Crimp it back with a screwdriver and a few light taps with a hammer. The plate should be fairly locked in when you're done. |
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2748photo Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Found some type 3 steel wheels last week. Going to take them for sandblasting and powder coating. Got the Pedro rack installed. Got the gauges out which was a bitch due a poor fitting aftermarket dash pad. Got the dash pad out. Now on to fixing some of the wiring, fuel gauge, etc.
My son doing work.
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69 Notchback Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2011 Posts: 714 Location: Bailey Co
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:35 am Post subject: |
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Good work way to get the kids involved. You have one lucky kid as most adults would love to owner that car. Keep at it it's looking good. Can't go wrong with a Pedro rack. Don't have one for the square back yet but I got a nice Pedro trunk rack for notch. |
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silvertonguedevil Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2010 Posts: 1692 Location: Vale, OR
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Nice car! Good luck with it! _________________ -Greg |
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tim3 Samba Member
Joined: February 01, 2004 Posts: 547 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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i have the same exact car.. i love it.. your son is one lucky kid!! make sure he drives it safe.. i was 15 once and drove my bug like crazy.. they are fun as hell but crunch easy.. i still drive crazy, but all i am saying is make sure he knows these cars are rare and once wrecked are never the same.. plus they dont have airbags.. driven safely and crazy within reason they are downright the best cars on the planet imo.. easy as pie to fix and maintain.. if you have any questions i would be glad to answer them.. email me at [email protected] here are a few pictures of my 66 Sea Sand Squareback..
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2748photo Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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tim3 wrote: |
i have the same exact car.. i love it.. your son is one lucky kid!! make sure he drives it safe.. i was 15 once and drove my bug like crazy.. they are fun as hell but crunch easy.. i still drive crazy, but all i am saying is make sure he knows these cars are rare and once wrecked are never the same.. plus they dont have airbags.. driven safely and crazy within reason they are downright the best cars on the planet imo.. easy as pie to fix and maintain.. if you have any questions i would be glad to answer them.. email me at [email protected] here are a few pictures of my 66 Sea Sand Squareback..
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Thanks Tim.
I have no doubt my son will drive it with care. My older son has been driving for 2 years now without a accident or ticket. I think my younger son will be even safer.
Your square is awesome. Can you tell me how much you have it lowered? |
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