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windfish Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2012 Posts: 1126 Location: NC
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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xBigDx408x wrote: |
You definitely need malware protection on a Mac. Don't buy in to that hype please.
Asus and Acer are certainly brands to avoid. |
Nah.
All the exploits for mac in the wild, afaik, require the user to explicitly run them. Usually overruling OS warnings and the user has to type in the admin password.
If you do that then even the antivirus software software can't save you, though I guess it might alert you and help you clean it up. Maybe.
I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but I've been running Macs for a good decade now and haven't seen anything or heard of anything. And I keep tabs on the tech news sites.
'course, now I don't run anything in Windows (7 or 10) either.
Used to, but the consumer-level antivirus stuff now is worse than the malware they supposedly prevent.
I do keep Windows Defender up to date, run AdBlock Plus in Firefox, and my router is running Tomato with it's firewall, but otherwise /shrug. |
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TheAmazingDave Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2013 Posts: 788 Location: San Jose, CA
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windfish Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2012 Posts: 1126 Location: NC
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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The article doesn't really give much info about what it is. The twitter account of the creator says: "tpwn" local privilege escalation bugs
So as is, this is a problem only if the 'bad guy' has local access to the computer.
It's bad that he can trick OS X into giving him root privs without the password, but it's not anything antivirus would help with.
And if you have local access you have all you need, I can reset the root password on a mac in 3 min with a usb copy of the install disk.
Again, afaik all the OS X exploits are like this.
There was one on Slashdot last a couple days ago (keychain vulnerability), but in order for it to work the user had to download the application (supposedly it looks like a image file) and run it. And in order to run it in Yosemite the user would have had to allow running programs from outside sources (in the settings pane, with the admin password), and even then still had to click through an acknowledgement that they were running a potentially unsafe program.
When they were trying to open an 'image' file.
That they got from an unknown source.
There are people out there who would fall for this, I'm sure of it.
There was another exploit a while back hitting people who downloaded Photoshop off thePirateBay.
But again, antivirus doesn't help this special kind of stupid.
Though I guess it might help with the cleanup. Again, maybe.
I'm glad you disclosed that the company you work for sells mac antivirus.
Those people who just can't help themselves, who download everything and click away warning flags like they're annoying gnats probably do benefit.
But eh. imo, the risk just isn't there for the slightly above average user who can control the urge to download everything and run unknown programs.
Windows is another matter, you can hose your OS just by visiting the wrong website -- esp without an adblocker. |
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BSQUARE Samba Member
Joined: November 05, 2004 Posts: 1876 Location: Feeling, Minnesota
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: new computer advise |
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vwracerdave wrote: |
I have always used HP computers, and every 4-5 years have worn mine out and purchased a new one. It's time to get a new computer and looking for suggestions for a home unit. Sam's has a nice model for $500 that is plenty for my simple needs. Is it normal to replace a computer every 4-5 years?
Not interested in a laptop. |
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Brian Samba Moderator
Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2003 Posts: 510
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:09 pm Post subject: Mac |
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I bought a MacbookPro, 3 1/2 years ago after using IBM, HP, blah, blah, blah. Love it, usually use it at least 2 hours a day, no viruses since I bought it, the service I get at the Apple Store is awesome. I do run a malware program on it occasionally, but so far nothing. Oh, and I work for a company owned by Toshiba, which I have at work, and it totally sucks. |
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Steelflash Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2015 Posts: 6 Location: Western US
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think it's normal to have to replace a PC every 4-5 years or so, but I've found that Macs tend to last a bit longer. But for $500 if you can get something new that's workable, that's hard to pass up. I've had Dell & HP both in the past and liked both, but I think I've fully crossed over to the dark side at this point. |
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15309 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Bought a brand new 'puter yesterday and am now back in action. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
2010 Sportsman ET Champion - Mid-America Dragway - Arkansas City, KS
1997 Sportsman ET Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble ,OK |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34018 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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vwracerdave wrote: |
Bought a brand new 'puter yesterday and am now back in action. |
Well, $hit, you HAVE to tell us what you bought or you surely must be banned!
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15309 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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The thingie the guy working at Best Buy pointed to.
HP 550-a114
ADM Quad-Core A8
8GB memory
1TB hard drive _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
2010 Sportsman ET Champion - Mid-America Dragway - Arkansas City, KS
1997 Sportsman ET Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble ,OK |
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Brian Samba Moderator
Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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