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blue72beetle Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2008 Posts: 846 Location: Fort Wayne, IN
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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That's my old bus!
I bought it in 2009, drove it home but it needed some work. Exhaust was rusted out and it didn't idle right. Started tearing the engine apart to rebuild and decided that I didn't want to deal with type 4 stuff. So I sold it to a guy from Indy in 2011, with a brand new exhaust and heater boxes. For a lot less than I bought it for too
I should've just thrown the exhaust on it and driven it til it quit. That was a nice bus. _________________ -Andy-
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tymbo Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2013 Posts: 30 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:52 am Post subject: |
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blue72beetle wrote: |
That's my old bus!
I bought it in 2009, drove it home but it needed some work. Exhaust was rusted out and it didn't idle right. Started tearing the engine apart to rebuild and decided that I didn't want to deal with type 4 stuff. So I sold it to a guy from Indy in 2011, with a brand new exhaust and heater boxes. For a lot less than I bought it for too
I should've just thrown the exhaust on it and driven it til it quit. That was a nice bus. |
That's cool. Well I can say it hasn't been on the road since then. You have any more info on it or other pictures of it? Why did you pull the engine, what was the issue with it. Where did you buy from? The guy I bought it from got it from the Indy guy and brought it to Louisville and it just sat in his back yard. I'll have it back on the road hopefully in a few months. _________________ A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.
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blue72beetle Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2008 Posts: 846 Location: Fort Wayne, IN
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Here is my thread I had on it:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=340203&highlight=
It had a rusted out exhaust, and the idle would hunt up and down. At the time I was of the belief that, I had no idea what kind of shape the engine was in, so I was going to tear it apart and refresh it before I started putting miles on it. Like I said, I should've just slapped an exhaust on it and driven it.
I bought it from a guy here in Fort Wayne that had it for a few years. He said he used it to go to camping parties and such. Ironically, I later sold the white bus in the above picture to his brother, which turned out to have a VIN number just a few digits away from the bus I have now. Small world. _________________ -Andy-
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tymbo Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2013 Posts: 30 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the info. Small world haha. I have a question for anyone about rear drum brakes. I am going to have to replace everything associated with the read brakes, backer plates, cylinders, parts kit...etc. I thought I read somewhere that the vanogan brakes would work. I would be interested in these brake setups because the have auto adjust rear drums. _________________ A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.
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curtis4085 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2011 Posts: 4806 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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I would suggest buying a new tank. Wolsfsburgwest has them for sale. Your also going to need a new fuel pump. _________________ Special Thanks to:
Headflow Masters - Vista, CA
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williamM Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2008 Posts: 4333 Location: southwest Arizona
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Fi fuel pump will not get along with carbs- nice find _________________ some days I get up and just sit and think. Some days I just sit.
opinion untempered by fact is ignorance.
Don't step in any! |
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tymbo Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2013 Posts: 30 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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So I took a day to clean the greasy engine tins and clean them up so I don't have too to when I go to paint them.
I don't know where this tin mounts up.
It was a messy job.
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tymbo Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2013 Posts: 30 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Engine stand time. Got the Harbor Freight 1000lbs discount special for $50. Found a 3 arm yoke locally brand new for $75. I am still in need of a 6 rib transmission so we can play a little game of "will it run"... More to come with the results of that game haha.
Measuring and drilling the pin holes for the yoke.
Here is the engine. It has a '78 date code. Its dirty, but its free and has compression.
Will it run?? I am missing all the hardware that holds the front fan shroud to the back of the fan shroud. Does anyone have there or know the sizes so I can go buy them. Thanks. _________________ A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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You don't need a starter.
Link
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tymbo Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2013 Posts: 30 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: The 79 VW Bus Incident.....the fun is real |
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Work...work...work.. tis the season. So I have been working on my gas tank. From the info I have gathered the bus sat for a while before I got it. The inside looked pretty bad:
I am using a the electroylsis process and results are pretty good so far, this was after 3 days:
Here were my 2 setups for getting to the entire tank:
The donor metal that attracted all the rust:
I do need some help. I have a FI tank with bad braising on the nipples and I am going to 1 outlet with the replaceable factory VW nipple style. What size bung is used for the factory fuel nipple setup. I cant find one and I have looked all over the net. Also got my first shipment of brake replacement parts, just waiting on my lines and a few other parts.
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:54 am Post subject: Re: The 79 VW Bus Incident.....the fun is real |
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It is an M18x1 bung you need.
Note: that the drums rub against the new backing plates.
You need to either.
Install new rear wheel bearing spacer sleeves. Part #211 501 281 E. The new spacers are longer than the old ones and space the drum out a little further.
Or have the back lip of the drum cut on a brake lathe.
Good luck
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captincanuck Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2014 Posts: 730 Location: The Great White North
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:42 am Post subject: Re: The 79 VW Bus Incident.....the fun is real |
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tymbo wrote: |
I do need some help. I have a FI tank with bad braising on the nipples and I am going to 1 outlet with the replaceable factory VW nipple style. What size bung is used for the factory fuel nipple setup. I cant find one and I have looked all over the net. Also got my first shipment of brake replacement parts, just waiting on my lines and a few other parts. |
That could be a bit tricky to find a M18x1.0mm bung. I would go with something more common that you could just attach a hose barb to. _________________ 1979 Westfalia "FireFly" Subaru 2.2 with Subaru gears 5spd.
Build Thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=634777&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 |
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Wasted youth Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2012 Posts: 5134 Location: California's Hot and Smoggy Central Valley
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:28 am Post subject: Re: The 79 VW Bus Incident.....the fun is real |
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Bala wrote: |
Personally I think you'll regret going with anything other than a 2.0L and 6 rib.
Those vintage stickers are all awesome! keep 'em!
Any cleaned up interior pix? |
I agree. Save up for the best and correct powertrain. I like the L-Jetronic fuel injection, but like anything, you need to sit down and learn about it. You saved and waited for this Westy with an incredibly clean interior with astounding near-perfect laminate, so why not hold off for the best in the engine bay?
Mather field was east of Sacramento, CA, if I recall correctly. Cold War era it was one of a few Central California AF Bases that supported the B-52 fleet. |
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tymbo Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2013 Posts: 30 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: The 79 VW Bus Incident.....the fun is real |
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Sooo.... its been a while and I have been as busy as you can in a non heated garage in the middle of a cold winter. I will catch you up on the progress. This post is pic heavy, I like to see when others post pictures, so I will follow.
1. Rebuilt the fuel sending unit and re wrapped it with the correct wire, epoxied over the wire scrapping away and sanding a little. Tested it when I got my new $50 Walmart battery in and it works great. I have some extra wire if someone else needs some, let me know. It wasn't that hard of a job, just takes some patience. I will post the link here later : __________
Before:
After:
Testing:
Success:
2. After getting all my brake parts in, I had to get some practice at bending metal brake lines, ohh what fun lol. Bought some cheap line from the LPS and there is a learning curve for sure. I advise do this as well before you bend the good stuff. My new brake drums actually didn't rub my new backer plates as I have seen in other posts. Replaced all the rubber lines all the way around. Let me know if you want to know my setup for drums and backer plates.
As you can see, new backer plates were necessary for sure
Progress
Rear backer plates installed
Some final brake yoga lol
Someone left a emergency brake pin out of my order so I had to improvise
Front brake line install
3. Finally I found a 6 rib transmission and will be going through the axles and bearings and repacking them and maybe new boots. First I think I have a dropped valve seat on my engine and will find out this week when I remove the heads. I have maybe located an 1800 engine, but have some questions about how well it will work with the 6 rib trans. I need to know what size bolts do i need to mount the transmission to the engine. Also looking for a starter for the 6 rib near me before I order a new one.
Finding this felt like a victory of some sort after all the searching to find one near me that wasn't a $1000
Also here is a photo of the engine, its pretty dirty and needs to be cleaned
My wife got me a new tent and seals for the pop top, so in the spring I will be doing a write up on the install and refinishing of the fiberglass top.
Tomorrow I will install my hazard switch and make sure the rest of the bus is getting power. I have found that the hazard switch works as a power block for a lot of lights in the bus.
Also I have found the popular LED light strips and did my homework on the sizes and types and ended up getting the 5050 led light strips that are water proof. Found some 4ft aluminum extruded channel with a cover to diffuse the light. I will put about 3-4ft on the stove side and about 3ft on the door side, so plenty of light with little power draw. Also bought a dimmer switch to control brightness. I will get to this in the spring as well. But just a taste of that I am talking about.
Quick test:
Extruded channel with diffuser:
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khalimadeath Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2014 Posts: 768 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: The 79 VW Bus Incident.....the fun is real |
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Nice work, got a link to the LED strip? Still sorting the electronics in my bus but im thinking of going with battery operated velcro or stick on LED lights. |
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tymbo Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2013 Posts: 30 Location: Louisville, KY
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khalimadeath Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2014 Posts: 768 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: The 79 VW Bus Incident.....the fun is real |
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Thanks!! |
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Tom Powell Samba Member
Joined: December 01, 2005 Posts: 4855 Location: Kaneohe
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: The 79 VW Bus Incident.....the fun is real |
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I have put LED strip lighting in the interior of my Vanagons. The biggest problem was mounting them. Stickyback velcro would not stay stuck to the LED strip or to the Vanagon plastic. Difficult to find glue that would stick to the Vanagon plastic. The final solution was E6000 glue and 3M hooks.
E6000:
http://www.amazon.com/E6000®-3-7-Ounce-Industrial-Carded-Adhesive/dp/B00178MO58/ref=sr_1_6?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1455862412&sr=1-6&keywords=e6000+industrial+strength
3M hooks:
http://www.amazon.com/Command-Clear-Hooks-Strips-A...mini+hooks
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tymbo Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2013 Posts: 30 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:59 am Post subject: Re: The 79 VW Bus Incident.....the fun is real |
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I need to know what size bolts I need to attach the engine to the trans and the mounting bolts to the bus? Also what size bolts do I need for the starter? _________________ A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.
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tymbo Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2013 Posts: 30 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: The 79 VW Bus Incident.....the fun is real |
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Ok, I just picked up a '74 type 4 1800 motor and I am about to get this Bus rolling soon. I am going to go ahead and rebuild the carb just while I have it out. I have a few questions for you guys:
1. How much fuel line do you think I will need and what size do I need?
2. I have a weber center mount carb and I need to know how long of a throttle cable I need.
3.I have a 6 rib trans and the 1800, can I use the flywheel and clutch setup from my 2.0L engine? Will it bolt up? If not what are my options?
4. I need some cheap plug wires just to get it running..can you send me in the right direction.
5. Anything else you guys can think of??
Thanks for any help.... trying to get this thing on the road by labor day because I already have my camp site paid for hahaha _________________ A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.
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