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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:07 am    Post subject: Mercedes rims on your bay, show me. Reply with quote

Let's see some Mercedes wheels on your bays. I have a SRT and I'm unsure whether to use them.

What have YOU got?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Mercedes rims on your bay, show me. Reply with quote

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HOLY CRAP

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah these hubcaps fit a small 5 bus wheel Cool this is an IRS rear end in the '60 panel
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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5.5 Front 6.5 Rear
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Longer studs and spacers.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Mercedes rims on your bay, show me. Reply with quote

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HOLY CRAP

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Hahahahahahahahaha, cheers mucker. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are what I have;

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I'm still debating whether to fit them.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW, My $.02..

My adventure fitting the wheels in the pic above involved a wheel shop.

The Benz uses a smaller stud than the bus.
You can either use adaptor studs or, like i did, take the holes over in the wheels.
The wheels get chucked up in a rotary table and machined over on a mill.
Then, hard inserts are pressed into the wheel with a slight interference fit.

Plenty of people have used the step-studs, but, if you want to do it right, and run with a heavy load,
you are far better off in the long run doing these things correctly.

Step-studs are hoakey.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers mate, I'm only debating it as I got them cheap.

I haven't even tried them yet so, if it's a load of hassle I just won't bother Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a local bus with 80's benz rims on it. Looks fine but for the 3 pointed star on the centercap. Now if someone were to 3d print same caps with the VW symbol on them I would know just what to do with the light alloy rums from my 300cd....
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:26 am    Post subject: Mercedes wheels on a 1971~79 VW Type 2 Reply with quote

Some of the later model-years of Mercedes cars use M14 x 1·5 mm fixing studs or bolts for the 5 x 112 mm PCD wheels.

I am currently investigating 16 x 6 inch and 16 x 6½ inch Mercedes steel and aluminium-alloy wheels (e.g. 36~39 mm offset) for my 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, on which I would fit either 195/65 R16C or 205/65 R16C commercial-van tyres; these being common sizes these days and of an aspect ratio for greatest fuel economy, for a given external circumference.

I have also come across some 17 x 6½ inch Mercedes steel wheels (38 mm offset), on which one could mount some 215/65 R17C SUV tyres, that would be about 9% larger external circumference than 185/80 R14C van tyres, but I'm not sure whether there would be sufficient wheel-arch & suspension clearance.

http://www.oponeo.co.uk/steel-wheels/17

http://www.oponeo.co.uk/steel-wheel/alcar-kfz-9787#18876839

I have also recently seen, 215/60 R17C commercial-van tyres, on a brand new, 2015 registered, long-wheel-base Vauxhall Vivaro panel van.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my59 wrote:
There is a local bus with 80's benz rims on it. Looks fine but for the 3 pointed star on the centercap. Now if someone were to 3d print same caps with the VW symbol on them I would know just what to do with the light alloy rums from my 300cd....

that is a great use for that tech,bundt wheels are like gasburners for bays Laughing
don't get me wrong I will rock them if and when I can Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:56 am    Post subject: Mercedes wheels for 1971~79 VW Type 2s Reply with quote

Where possible, it might be useful for respondents to give details of:

Mercedes car models & model years to which these wheels were originally fitted;
Wheel size (i.e. diameter & width);
Wheel offset;
Original fixing bolt/stud hole size (e.g. 12 mm or 14 mm);
Original fixing bolt/stud seat type (e.g. hemispherical or conical seat with taper angle);
Tyre size;
Any problems encountered with fitting and/or using the specified wheel & tyre combination.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Man, That is a great look right there. Love that stance.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:35 am    Post subject: Mercedes wheels on a 1971~79 VW Type 2 Reply with quote

These are the Mercedes steel wheels and tyres, which Ralph & Lucas van den Houten (aka "Bursch" & "MadMax78") in The Netherlands, retro-fitted to their 1978 VW 2000 Type 2 ASI Riviera campervan, for their overland trek to Capetown, South Africa.

6.5Jx15 ET37 5x112 Mercedes wheels with Continental Cross Contact AT 225/70 R15 tyres. Barely fits, only rubs sway bar in front.

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The front suspension anti-roll bar, looks as though it is of the uprated variety, but I'm surprised it wasn't angled differently to give greater tyre clearance!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: Mercedes rims on your bay, show me. Reply with quote

I finally got around to purchasing a set of four Mercedes 7J x 16 inch wheels [37 mm offset] of the following five double-spoke style, for my 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan; originating from a 2002/03 Mercedes C-Class:

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At a total cost of £80 + shipping, they were reasonably cheap, but whether I can find another two spares as cheaply, remains to be seen.

They are presently fitted with 205/55 R16 91V tyres, but I intend to substitute either 205/65 R16C or 215/65 R16C light-truck tyres, which are readily available here at competitive prices.
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