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ballbag Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:07 am Post subject: Mercedes rims on your bay, show me. |
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Let's see some Mercedes wheels on your bays. I have a SRT and I'm unsure whether to use them.
What have YOU got? _________________ I never learned that much at school, but i've taught ladies plenty!! |
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consvws Samba Member
Joined: April 07, 2009 Posts: 950 Location: Roseburg, OR
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Red Fau Veh Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:30 am Post subject: |
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The cheap way out.
_________________ 1971 Deluxe Sunroof Bay 1905 stroker, dual idf40's, 74mm Scat forged crank, engle 110 cam. CB 044 heads, AutoCraft rockers, chromoly push rods
1973 Orange transporter stock type 4 with dual 40 Dellortos and Empi single quiet pack
1969 Adventurewagen blue whale Gene Berg 1776 built by Dave Kawell dual 36 DRLA's, Vintage Speed exhaust, Bosch 019 screamer
1961 Swivel Seat camper, L345 grey
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secretsubmariner Champagne Wrangler
Joined: January 08, 2011 Posts: 3104 Location: Tulsa, OK
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consvws Samba Member
Joined: April 07, 2009 Posts: 950 Location: Roseburg, OR
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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yeah these hubcaps fit a small 5 bus wheel this is an IRS rear end in the '60 panel
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7551 Location: Santa Cruz
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5.5 Front 6.5 Rear _________________ Bus Motor Build
What’s That Noise?!? |
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camit34 Samba Member
Joined: January 14, 2006 Posts: 1567 Location: Commerce City CO
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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_________________ In search of a Vanagon
1971 Westy (SOLD)
1971 Deluxe (SOLD)
1967 Freedom Camper (SOLD) |
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Bansheelos Samba Member
Joined: February 27, 2012 Posts: 313 Location: NY/NJ
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ballbag Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2006 Posts: 204 Location: Cheshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: Mercedes rims on your bay, show me. |
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secretsubmariner wrote: |
HOLY CRAP
you have the best username on the samba |
Hahahahahahahahaha, cheers mucker.
I've been called ballbag since I was about 15 I use it on all forums _________________ I never learned that much at school, but i've taught ladies plenty!! |
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ballbag Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2006 Posts: 204 Location: Cheshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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These are what I have;
I'm still debating whether to fit them. _________________ I never learned that much at school, but i've taught ladies plenty!! |
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7551 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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FWIW, My $.02..
My adventure fitting the wheels in the pic above involved a wheel shop.
The Benz uses a smaller stud than the bus.
You can either use adaptor studs or, like i did, take the holes over in the wheels.
The wheels get chucked up in a rotary table and machined over on a mill.
Then, hard inserts are pressed into the wheel with a slight interference fit.
Plenty of people have used the step-studs, but, if you want to do it right, and run with a heavy load,
you are far better off in the long run doing these things correctly.
Step-studs are hoakey.
Again, My $.02... _________________ Bus Motor Build
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ballbag Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2006 Posts: 204 Location: Cheshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Cheers mate, I'm only debating it as I got them cheap.
I haven't even tried them yet so, if it's a load of hassle I just won't bother _________________ I never learned that much at school, but i've taught ladies plenty!! |
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my59 Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2003 Posts: 3793 Location: connecting the dots
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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There is a local bus with 80's benz rims on it. Looks fine but for the 3 pointed star on the centercap. Now if someone were to 3d print same caps with the VW symbol on them I would know just what to do with the light alloy rums from my 300cd.... _________________ my59: Well son, my grandfather died before I got to drive it, so does that answer your question?
our79: sunroof bus w/camper interior and 2.0 FI
Other:'12 Jetta, '77 Benz 300D, and a 74 MG Midget. |
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NASkeet Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 2958 Location: South Benfleet, Essex, UK
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:26 am Post subject: Mercedes wheels on a 1971~79 VW Type 2 |
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Some of the later model-years of Mercedes cars use M14 x 1·5 mm fixing studs or bolts for the 5 x 112 mm PCD wheels.
I am currently investigating 16 x 6 inch and 16 x 6½ inch Mercedes steel and aluminium-alloy wheels (e.g. 36~39 mm offset) for my 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, on which I would fit either 195/65 R16C or 205/65 R16C commercial-van tyres; these being common sizes these days and of an aspect ratio for greatest fuel economy, for a given external circumference.
I have also come across some 17 x 6½ inch Mercedes steel wheels (38 mm offset), on which one could mount some 215/65 R17C SUV tyres, that would be about 9% larger external circumference than 185/80 R14C van tyres, but I'm not sure whether there would be sufficient wheel-arch & suspension clearance.
http://www.oponeo.co.uk/steel-wheels/17
http://www.oponeo.co.uk/steel-wheel/alcar-kfz-9787#18876839
I have also recently seen, 215/60 R17C commercial-van tyres, on a brand new, 2015 registered, long-wheel-base Vauxhall Vivaro panel van. _________________ Regards.
Nigel A. Skeet
Independent tutor (semi-retired) of mathematics, physics, technology & engineering for secondary, tertiary, further & higher education.
Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper
Onetime member, plus former Technical Editor & Editor of Transporter Talk magazine
Volkswagen Type 2 Owners' Club (Great Britain)
http://www.vwt2oc.net
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blacktruck Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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my59 wrote: |
There is a local bus with 80's benz rims on it. Looks fine but for the 3 pointed star on the centercap. Now if someone were to 3d print same caps with the VW symbol on them I would know just what to do with the light alloy rums from my 300cd.... |
that is a great use for that tech,bundt wheels are like gasburners for bays
don't get me wrong I will rock them if and when I can |
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First Samba Member
Joined: February 26, 2015 Posts: 8 Location: Orange County NY
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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NASkeet Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 2958 Location: South Benfleet, Essex, UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:56 am Post subject: Mercedes wheels for 1971~79 VW Type 2s |
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Where possible, it might be useful for respondents to give details of:
Mercedes car models & model years to which these wheels were originally fitted;
Wheel size (i.e. diameter & width);
Wheel offset;
Original fixing bolt/stud hole size (e.g. 12 mm or 14 mm);
Original fixing bolt/stud seat type (e.g. hemispherical or conical seat with taper angle);
Tyre size;
Any problems encountered with fitting and/or using the specified wheel & tyre combination. _________________ Regards.
Nigel A. Skeet
Independent tutor (semi-retired) of mathematics, physics, technology & engineering for secondary, tertiary, further & higher education.
Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper
Onetime member, plus former Technical Editor & Editor of Transporter Talk magazine
Volkswagen Type 2 Owners' Club (Great Britain)
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no1pony Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2010 Posts: 82 Location: Dover, Delaware
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Man, That is a great look right there. Love that stance. _________________ 1966 Beetle Restoration almost done
1972 Ghia with the worst bumbers in the world.
78 Bay Window Project |
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NASkeet Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 2958 Location: South Benfleet, Essex, UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:35 am Post subject: Mercedes wheels on a 1971~79 VW Type 2 |
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These are the Mercedes steel wheels and tyres, which Ralph & Lucas van den Houten (aka "Bursch" & "MadMax78") in The Netherlands, retro-fitted to their 1978 VW 2000 Type 2 ASI Riviera campervan, for their overland trek to Capetown, South Africa.
6.5Jx15 ET37 5x112 Mercedes wheels with Continental Cross Contact AT 225/70 R15 tyres. Barely fits, only rubs sway bar in front.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=649629
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=649630
The front suspension anti-roll bar, looks as though it is of the uprated variety, but I'm surprised it wasn't angled differently to give greater tyre clearance! _________________ Regards.
Nigel A. Skeet
Independent tutor (semi-retired) of mathematics, physics, technology & engineering for secondary, tertiary, further & higher education.
Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper
Onetime member, plus former Technical Editor & Editor of Transporter Talk magazine
Volkswagen Type 2 Owners' Club (Great Britain)
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NASkeet Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 2958 Location: South Benfleet, Essex, UK
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:47 am Post subject: Re: Mercedes rims on your bay, show me. |
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I finally got around to purchasing a set of four Mercedes 7J x 16 inch wheels [37 mm offset] of the following five double-spoke style, for my 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan; originating from a 2002/03 Mercedes C-Class:
At a total cost of £80 + shipping, they were reasonably cheap, but whether I can find another two spares as cheaply, remains to be seen.
They are presently fitted with 205/55 R16 91V tyres, but I intend to substitute either 205/65 R16C or 215/65 R16C light-truck tyres, which are readily available here at competitive prices. _________________ Regards.
Nigel A. Skeet
Independent tutor (semi-retired) of mathematics, physics, technology & engineering for secondary, tertiary, further & higher education.
Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper
Onetime member, plus former Technical Editor & Editor of Transporter Talk magazine
Volkswagen Type 2 Owners' Club (Great Britain)
http://www.vwt2oc.net |
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