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ZachL
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:48 am    Post subject: Project Verwandtschaft - 1972 Bay Window Deluxe Reply with quote

Hi Samba folks, my aunt and uncle are moving to Sri Lanka to live out their retirement, so I'll be the new caretaker/owner for their '72 Deluxe. Decided to make this thread if for no other reason than my own entertainment lol. Plan to post up our experiences with the bus... problems, solutions, any road trip enjoyment, and just a general log of happenings. BTW, "verwandtschaft" is German for relatives/family/relationship.

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This bus has been on the other side of the world several times. My aunt/uncle bought the bus from a classmate while attending Rice University in Houston during the late 70's. After college, they married and drove the bus back to her homeland/family in Sri Lanka as a sort of honeymoon journey. Shipped it across the Atlantic, drove through Europe, Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka and finally back to the US a year later... a trip that would not be possible today. The bus also spent several years in Germany and did a second trip to Sri Lanka. One day in 1992 the bus wouldn't start and it has been sitting in their garage in Houston ever since.

Me:
Long-time VW owner but they've all been watercooled up until now. Currently daily a 2006 Mk5 GTI. Also currently own a 1997 Mk3 Golf and a 1982 Mk1 Rabbit Diesel. Parted my beloved Corrado VR6 two years ago. Several other watercooled VWs in addition to those. Self taught to work on cars in my mid-teens and worked at a shop while I was in college. I can do pretty much anything to a car besides weld, but I found a local place that does classes for really cheap. My girlfriend, Misha, and I are really excited to get this project started!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to see if my uncle can get some pics of the bus from its world travels. He's busy packing up to leave the country in a few days.

Steering wheel was locked with the front wheels turned. No keys. Wheel dollies helped the front end to move out straight without hitting the garage.
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Left rear wheel was locked up and would not rotate so we were unable to push it onto the car dolly.
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Figured I'd use a Harbor Freight marine winch to pull it onto the trailer. OSHA approved mounting solution lol
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The winch didn't have enough power to get the frozen wheel up the ramp. So I broke down and opened the rear drum to get it rotating again.
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Probably not the ideal strap points, but it worked perfect.
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With the rear wheel rotating again, the winch pulled it right up on the trailer.
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Ready to hit the road.
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Embarking on the 165 mile journey from Houston to Austin
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The front left tire disintegrated a few miles outside Austin. Surprised the 25 year old tires (yes, 25!) made it that far
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Huge fan of the typefaces used on classic Volkswagens. Perfect!
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Autobahn sticker from when my aunt/uncle lived in Germany for a few years
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Most looking forward to this part of the bus - interior! Very Happy ...but it'll have to wait for the bus to be mechanically sound and safe
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Finally at home sitting with the daily. 2006 GTI with over 200,000 and no mechanical issues thus far Smile
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More to come soon...

-Zach


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome fellow Austinite!

Check out www.aircoolers.org for local stuff.
We have our monthly meeting this Thursday at Austin's Pizza on South Lamar. Then Novemberfest show and swap on the 14th, followed by NVMBRFST camping that night at Emma Long City Park!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to TheSamba, Bay Window Bus Forum!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a nice story. It would be cool, if they have any old pix of their travels in the bus.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice! You will have fun in Austin with a bus Cool Lots of cool air cooled peeps there - like bala. You are surrounded from Houston, San Antonio to Dallas.

Post some pics!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

notchboy wrote:
You are surrounded from Houston, San Antonio to Dallas.

Yes, Austin has sort of a seige mentality--an oasis in the surrounding half vastness of Texas.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jtauxe wrote:
notchboy wrote:
You are surrounded from Houston, San Antonio to Dallas.

Yes, Austin has sort of a seige mentality--an oasis in the surrounding half vastness of Texas.



The island of Democratica in the land of Republica. At least how I see it being exposed to plenty of weirdos over the years, both funny dressing ones and ones that carry guns Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread would be AWESOME if only it had some pictures... Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Life long Texan. Austin was the reason I didn't leave. Cool

Tcash wrote:
That is a nice story. It would be cool, if they have any old pix of their travels in the bus.
wcfvw69 wrote:
This thread would be AWESOME if only it had some pictures... Laughing
I'd love to see those pics... I'll see what I can get from him. Just posted some further up the thread until I have some that are interesting. Hoping to have some progress pics soon too!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First thing was to get some keys... I pulled the striker arm from the rear hatch lock, got the code and ordered from Steve @ Steve's Lock Shoppe.
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The next day my uncle notified me he found both the keys... both?!? It's a good thing because the ignition was replaced so the ordered keys would not have unlocked the steering column.

Took off the blown tire and mounted the spare
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No M-plate!!! Really wish I had it to show me the features of the bus. I did find the 'birth certificate' plate behind the passenger front seat though.
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My uncle also informed me the engine has been replaced. Here is the engine code... maybe one of you more knowledgeable folks can tell me what we have here
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What intial tasks/procedures do you guys recommend to any new bus owner? First things to address will be brake system, replace all the fuel lines and clean the gas tank. The engine will most likely be coming out very soon. What else do you guys recommend?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The code on the fan housing is pictured( likely the original code of the original engine). The actual engine code is on the block, just behind the square air breather, though some are on the front top left of the block at an angle depending on which block was used, could be original block and match codes which would be nice. Cool story, glad you got the keys Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZachL wrote:
No M-plate!!! Really wish I had it to show me the features of the bus. I did find the 'birth certificate' plate behind the passenger front seat though.
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The M plate is much higher up on that bulkhead, perhaps it's obscured by that dark matter near the top?, it should be just inboard and above that fresh air duct.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks solid.
Did you haul it home on the rim?
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You have a single mount Progressive carburetor. Ask if he has the old carbs? You will need these.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=386388&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=217070
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The jack stand is crushing the jack point from underneath. Move it further in. You will probably need to bend it back to make it square again. Or the Vw jack will not fit.
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As busdaddy posted the M-plate should be above the round vent.
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This is where the engine case numbers are located.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much guys for the info!

Spent most the weekend in here dismantling this to make room for the bus
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Found the M plate behind a custom made wooden storage piece
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More pics of the carb. It's a Holley. Need to get more info on it later
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you go.

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Project Verwandtschaft - 1972 Bay Window Deluxe

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Model Type 2 (T2) mod. 225(1) :
- Microbus
- 7 seater (arrangement 2-2-3)
- Sliding door right
- Sliding roof
- LHD
Chassis number 2222012002
Serial number 012 002
Modelyear 1972
Planned production date
Monday, 06 September 1971
Number for production planning
(temporary serial number) 7901
Type of engine Type 4 (CB) - 1679cc, 49 kW (66 bhp DIN)
Type of transmission Manual 4-speed gearbox
Paint color
Color upper part : L90D - Pastel White
Color lower part : L11H - Sierra Yellow
Interior color (doorpanels and seats) 50 - Black Leatherette

Destination USA, Washington D.C.



M-CODES
M-CODE Description Concerned models From chassis number To chassis number
508 With vent wing in passenger compartment opposite sliding door 221-244
2x1 2 300 000
508 With vent wing in sliding door and in all windows in the opposite side panel 221-244
2x2 2 000 001 2x7 2 300 000
508 Sliding window in the side panel opposite the sliding door 271
274
2x2 2 000 001
508 With vent wing in the Double Cab door and in the opposite side panel 265-268
2x2 2 000 001
A01 Specifications for the USA
Collection of M-Codes: M 020/026/089/102/206/506/507/511/521/524/525 (1971-1972) - 2x1 2 000 001 2x2 2 300 000
020 Speedometer and odometer in Miles 211-274

026 With activated carbon container for absorbing fuel vapour 211-274, California
2x2 2 300 000
026 With activated carbon container for absorbing fuel vapour 211-234, Japan
2x6 2 120 000
026 With activated carbon container for absorbing fuel vapour 211-234, Autralia
2x6 2 120 000
089 Laminated windscreen (1969-1979) - 2x9 000 001 2x9 2 300 000
102 Rear-window defogger 211-268

206 Inner rear-view mirror, anti-dazzle -
506 With brake servo and dual circuit brake warning light (LHD) 211-271

507 Vent wings in cab doors 211-235
261-274

511 Padded instrument panel (LHD only) 211-271

521 With additional chrome trim and sun visor with mirror 221-228
2x9 300 000
521 With additional chrome trim 221-228
2x0 2 000 001
524 Sealed beam headlamps, dual circuit brake control, back-up light and side marker reflectors (LHD) without emergency light system 211, USA, Canada
241, USA, Canada
265, USA, Canada
2x9 000 001 2x9 999 999
524 Sealed beam headlamps, dual circuit brake control, back-up light and side marker reflectors (LHD) with buzzer for ignition-starter switch 211, USA, Canada
241, USA, Canada
265, USA, Canada
2x0 2 000 001 2x2 2 000 000
524 Sealed beam headlamps, dual circuit brake control, back-up light and side marker reflectors (LHD) 211, USA, Canada
241, USA, Canada
265, USA, Canada
2x2 2 000 001
525 Three-point safety belts front, left and right and lap belts in passenger compartment 211-265, USA, Canada

A01 Collection of M-codes: M 161/184/335/506/507/912 (1979) - 2x9 2 000 001 2x9 2 300 000
161 Seats in cabin with mountings for headrest -
184 Three-point seat belt retractable 211-268

335 Engine 37 Kw (50 BHP) 1.6 liter, respecting Austrian regulations 211-274, Austria
2x6 2 000 001
506 With brake servo and dual circuit brake warning light (LHD) 211-271

507 Vent wings in cab doors 211-235
261-274

912 Without constructor identification plate -
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tcash wrote:
Did you haul it home on the rim?
That tire blew 12 miles from home. Went to put on the spare, but it was flat so I drove just 10mph that last leg of the journey. Pulled over a few times to check and the wheel never touched pavement.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZachL wrote:
Tcash wrote:
Did you haul it home on the rim?
That tire blew 12 miles from home. Went to put on the spare, but it was flat so I drove just 10mph that last leg of the journey. Pulled over a few times to check and the wheel never touched pavement.

-Zach


Probably time for another rim.
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