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bigbulli Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2000 Posts: 575 Location: ENGLAND
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:50 am Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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Awesome bus and work Greg. Look forward to following you conservation! _________________ 1954 Barndoor
1955 Oval |
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DanM Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2002 Posts: 1330 Location: Falls Church, VA
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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wow, just found this thread. amazing bus! keep up the good work. |
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10196 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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Not too much to report, once the Christmas holiday was over I pulled the drivers side door off the bus and took it to the paint shop. A week later and with a wallet that felt quite a bit lighter I had a pint of white and a quart of red to show for it. I did some spray outs yesterday, wasn't totally satisfied, and dropped the whole deal back off at the paint supply shop today for some more corrections. The shop owner thought the colors were "on the money" but the guy who actually mixes the paint and the guy working the front counter felt they could be improved.
I think I'll need to bring some cookies in to butter them up next time....mmmmm.....cookies! |
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10196 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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Another round of spray outs yesterday. A little closer, might have gone too far. The grey is now a little too warm, and a little too dark. The red is a little too orange, and a little too dark. Dropped everything back off at the paint shop today. Bribed them with some of Clara's homemade jam. Next time it might be doughnuts....mmmmmm, donuts. |
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zuggbug Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2008 Posts: 3479 Location: Anderson SC
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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Greg, I hope they can nail it this time.
Food always works with me...
Good luck _________________ SOUTHERN INTEGRITY AIRCOOLERS
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joshbuchan Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2007 Posts: 712 Location: victoria bc canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:02 pm Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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That was one of the most frustrating parts of my oval build...nailing down the L322 granite silver.....at least a dozen tries to get it right! |
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brettsvw Samba Member
Joined: November 22, 2007 Posts: 2145 Location: Florida
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dave kroesen Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2001 Posts: 41 Location: so cal
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:39 am Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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When you finally find that person who can match paint, you hold onto them with both hands. I STILL use the same dude on Sherman Way since I have trusted since the 90's, and tip him out big time because when he nails it the first time, it saves me hours and days of brain damage doing it over and over again. _________________ 40-horses to freedom! |
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jjjjack Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2005 Posts: 1013 Location: Gainesville, FL
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sled Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 6179
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:09 am Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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I checked this bus out a while back, and i think everyone who wanted this bus would be even more envious than they thought, myself included.
Can't wait to circle the westys at vintage or moxee!! _________________ drive your split. |
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10196 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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I think we are getting pretty close on the beige grey. We may be there. I am starting to like what I see. The paint dabbed on the corner is the new match on top of the previous attempt. I'll do some new sprayouts tomorrow.
I think the red still needs some more work. |
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7047 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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campingbox wrote: |
I think we are getting pretty close on the beige grey. We may be there. I am starting to like what I see. The paint dabbed on the corner is the new match on top of the previous attempt. I'll do some new sprayouts tomorrow.
I think the red still needs some more work. |
your goth nailpolish is chipping off _________________ regards
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'53 3-Fold Oval, L35 Metallic Blue, looking for a narrow hatch panel |
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14258 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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On my screen it looks perfect. |
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10196 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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mandraks wrote: |
campingbox wrote: |
I think we are getting pretty close on the beige grey. We may be there. I am starting to like what I see. The paint dabbed on the corner is the new match on top of the previous attempt. I'll do some new sprayouts tomorrow.
I think the red still needs some more work. |
your goth nailpolish is chipping off |
Damn, I'm so embarrassed. Everyone knows Thursday night is club night, so I'll make sure I touch it up then. |
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65Nsqback Samba Member
Joined: September 17, 2004 Posts: 1256 Location: Grantsville UT
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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campingbox wrote: |
I think we are getting pretty close on the beige grey. We may be there. I am starting to like what I see. The paint dabbed on the corner is the new match on top of the previous attempt. I'll do some new sprayouts tomorrow.
I think the red still needs some more work. |
Hey Greg not sure if you have been checking your color outside but fluorescent lights in your garage/shop will change (all)colors drastically even the fluorescent "true daylight" bulbs aren't good enough for checking/matching color
I'm not sure how much sun you guys are getting this time of year but try checking it outside and see what you think I have seen colors look great inside then taken outside only to find out they're not even in the same color spectrum
I hope I'm not pointing out the obvious just trying to be helpful
The bus looks great by the way _________________ Wow look at that THAT'S A "SHOW CAR"!!
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you can't be something your not...be your self by your self stay away from me
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10196 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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That is good advice Kris. The weather forecast for the next ten days in Olympia is nothing but rain. Hopefully we see a few sun breaks at some point - it probably won't rain every minute of every day.
I worked as a technician in a color darkroom for about five years and worked in a 1-hour photo lab for a number of years before and overlapping that so I understand all about color temperatures and how they can affect hues. The fluorescent lights in the shop are daylight corrected but nothing beats good old sunshine.
I'm not sure the color is there yet but it's getting close. I'll do a spray out tomorrow and hang it up waiting for some sun to shine before calling it good.
Ultimately I want the color to look right under every lighting condition. |
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jjjjack Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2005 Posts: 1013 Location: Gainesville, FL
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:52 am Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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A big part of color perception is context. Colors can look entirely different based on nearby colors.
^^^ your match looks pretty damn close to me!
The spray thickness, texture and color of undercoat are also important. You might have to make some more adjustments once it's actually sprayed in place. I found that I could only get a real reading on the color by spraying an area, color sanding AND polishing...then of course, looking at it outdoors.
Looking great! _________________ Jack Stenner
1959 Mango Westfalia SO-23
1953 Porsche 356 Coupe
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10196 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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jjjjack wrote: |
A big part of color perception is context. Colors can look entirely different based on nearby colors.
^^^ your match looks pretty damn close to me!
The spray thickness, texture and color of undercoat are also important. You might have to make some more adjustments once it's actually sprayed in place. I found that I could only get a real reading on the color by spraying an area, color sanding AND polishing...then of course, looking at it outdoors.
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Thanks Jack!
I think you are right about how the proximity can change how the color looks. That combined with texture, gloss, and reflections of the surroundings.
I did my new spray outs last night and let them dry overnight. I added a slightly uncontrolled amount of flattener to the mix - it's hard to get the ratios right on these very small quantities of paint.
We had some sunshine this morning and Clara and I spent quite a bit of time critiquing the beige grey. At first I thought it might be slightly too dark, then the sun came out even brighter and I thought it was perfect. Came back again an hour later and I thought it might be too dark. In the end we added three squirts of white to the mix and I hope it's gonna be on the money now.
The SWR is still too orange, and too dark, so I took that back and I'll let Donny tweak on it some more.
Yah! Sunshine. |
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DanM Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2002 Posts: 1330 Location: Falls Church, VA
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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Clara wrote: |
I am thinking probably red curtains: |
this pic popped up on my instagram feed recently - somewhat related for swr/bg deLuxe conversion curtain color:
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10196 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: '61 corner window westy campingbox |
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Nice picture Dan!
I'm still tweaking on the beige grey. Baby steps with the toner, spray it out and wait overnight to dry. Repeat the process the next day, etc. It's so close now that I'm using a glass dropper and counting the drops.
I polished up the nose a bit.
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