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Reassembling all the painted engine tin today. Everything went pretty smooth until I realized I had one piece left over...yikes. In the Haynes manual on page 21 it's called "warm air duct (R rear)" Rear as in near alternator or near firewall? I can't see/figure out where it goes at such a late place in the assembly. Anyone?
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bigbore
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 engine tin |
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photo please.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 engine tin |
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If memory serves it has one or two botts that bolt to the 3/4 cylinder side cylinder cover plate....listed as part #2 in the lower picture on page 21.....and has two bolts that attach it ro part # 5 in the lower picture which is the 3/4 lower "sled tin".
You should be able to put it on after removing the lower sled tin ......with a little wiggling. Ray |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 engine tin |
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Or perhaps the warm air duct that goes from 1-2 side into the engine bay stock air cleaner set up.
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pioneer1
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 engine tin |
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010-27 is the culprit
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 engine tin |
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You can't just leave it out if that's what you are hinting at, try to gently jam it in but I suspect you'll have to move a step backwards before proceeding further.
I know it's exciting to be remantling but now's the time to do it right, it won't be any easier later.
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pioneer1
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 engine tin |
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Great videos but...The you tube video leaves out the installation of this part. Looking at the alternator,is it on the right surrounding the alternator or firewall end?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 engine tin |
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Like I said POST A PHOTO of the tin these numbers mean nothing.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 engine tin |
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| Like I said POST A PHOTO of the tin these numbers mean nothing. |
Right? I was thinking the same thing. Then you said it the first time.
Then I thought the same thing....
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pioneer1
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bigbore
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 engine tin |
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Ok maybe this will speed things along these two are on the right side of the engine one is up by the firewall and ones behind the alt which one?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 engine tin |
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Just rebuilt mine recently and took a lot of Work to makesure I had ALL the tin first clean and shiny
So post a photo of the extra piece and we can all stop trying to guess 
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 engine tin |
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That one ok pull the blower housing.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 engine tin |
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Sorry photos came up slow that piece fits in on alternator side near rear of bus so rear passenger side pretty sure it just kinda snaps into place as you mount other pieces no bolts hold it I place
I will go have a closer look at mine
But you need to install for sure directs heat / air flow
These other guys really know there stuff so don't ignore their advice
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 engine tin |
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Ok, that piece goes to the rear of #2 cylinder. The top edge there in the pic goes against the engine case. That hole at top right is the cable from the thermostat, so is upper left. The screws at the bottom secure the top right tin over the cyllinders. To get it in the fan housing will need to be loosened up so it can be slid in. The rear edge goes under the fan outlet lip and flap. You kind of have to hold it in position and push the fan in to hold it there.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 engine tin |
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thanks-I'll try tomorrow
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Type 4 engine tin |
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BTW TO STRESS WHAT TCASH posted - taking the fan apart is a no-no. Without a lathe and time on your hands it is near impossible to get it running true again. Ask me how I know.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Type 4 engine tin |
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All done-simply slip that piece of tin in it's place...FIRST! haha- will nominate the videos for a sticky
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