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djkeev Samba Moderator
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Merian Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: Tightening the Vent Window |
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why not add this to the Design Defects thread - if you can find it |
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VWinVT Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Tightening the Vent Window |
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I had no idea there was a way to tighten this post...interested to see how,to remedy this horrible 'tease' of fresh, cool air that we can't have because the vent window WONT STAY OPEN!!! _________________ 1981 Westfalia with a 2001 Cabrio ABA
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VWagabond Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: Tightening the Vent Window |
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I did the same recently. Was almost tempted to pull the vent window assembly out but resisted and just used the thin nosed vise grips and all the patience I could muster. Auto engineers don't care what you have to go thru to fix the stuff they design, at least it seems that way sometimes.
Tom _________________ The Road Goes Ever On & On……...
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levi Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Tightening the Vent Window |
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Very easy to put a skinny vice grip on that thing.
pics in my gallery
_________________ One of these days I'm gonna settle down,
but till I do I won't be hangin round.
Going down that long lonesome highway,
gonna see life my way
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msinabottle Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 3492 Location: Denver Area, Colorado
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: Tightening the Vent Window |
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I had my fun with that, but I won't link to my account of it, because I don't want to give djkeev a coronary.
MY problem with the driver's side wing window is, that although I, too, got it tight, with my literal blood, sweat, and tears, and had new rubber seals installed, I don't like to use the wing window these days because of THE WHISTLING.
If I get it just right, it's quiet. But if I don't get it just right... It is one of the most ANNOYING sounds I have ever heard and it doesn't stop.
I queried the bodymen who'd worked on Winston. They said there was enough wear on the hole the pivoting pin rotated in--over Winston's three decades of existence--so that the whole assembly had just room enough to sag, and whistle, if everything wasn't lined up JUST so... and there wasn't much they could do about it.
Drat.
The other issue is that I retrofitted the front doors with that rubber strip on the top leading edge, the 'Upper Door Lip seals' that GoWesty sells:
http://www.gowesty.com/product-details.php?v=&id=23590
that the older Vanagons didn't have. The idea was to diminish wind noise. Despite glue, and clamps, and more glue, and more clamps--the ends of both pop off every time I open the doors.
Aggravating. It is not beyond all possibility, now that I look at the NEW pictures, that I needed to mount them still lower down on the front door edge.
Best! _________________ 'Winston,' '84 1.9 WBX Westy
Vanagon Poet Laureate: "I have suffered in
many ways, but never, never, never in silence." |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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blackglasspirate Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:12 am Post subject: Re: Tightening the Vent Window |
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I feel your pain. My mind was blown the first time I took off the door panel to tighten that screw. I heard it was just a phillips screw so I figured it would be right there with easy access - nope! Those German engineers make me scratch my head and/or curse sometimes.
In the end I did what was already said in some of the other posts - used some pliers to turn it as much as possible. Much better! _________________ '87 Vanagon GL Westfalia
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16CVs Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2004 Posts: 4024 Location: Redwood City, California
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Tightening the Vent Window |
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I have a great idea. Take the vent out out and replace it with a Hex screw that you can get an end wrench on and then you can fine tune it.
Stacy _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia Triple knob (bastard)
1989 Syncro Tristar Triple knob "Swedish"
2013 Jetta Hybrid a true "Zwitter"
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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16CVs Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:05 am Post subject: Re: Tightening the Vent Window |
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My comment ,was a little "Tounge in Cheek" .
Stacy _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia Triple knob (bastard)
1989 Syncro Tristar Triple knob "Swedish"
2013 Jetta Hybrid a true "Zwitter"
Samba member # 14980
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spitsnrovers Samba Member
Joined: December 17, 2005 Posts: 924 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:09 am Post subject: Re: Tightening the Vent Window |
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I'da thot that the screw (with whatever kinda head) shuda bin installed the other way round. Then a hole in the inner pannel (behind the door card?) cudda tightened it ez.
Just my Canadian 2 cents worth (and we don't even use pennies any more _________________ '88 VW Westfalia
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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Merian Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: Tightening the Vent Window |
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won't a right-angle screwdriver work? |
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levi Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: Tightening the Vent Window |
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djkeev wrote: |
Can I make it thin enough to engage the screw with that metal flange right there????
Dave |
The thickness of those pliers of mine that you posted up (thanks for that ), that's about how much space , in total, is available.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't imagine it possible _________________ One of these days I'm gonna settle down,
but till I do I won't be hangin round.
Going down that long lonesome highway,
gonna see life my way
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djkeev Samba Moderator
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raoul mitgong Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: Tightening the Vent Window |
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I tightened mine while I was replacing the passenger side seal. Pretty much have to take the entire door apart to replace that rubber or get to that screw with a philips. New rubber didn't help with the whistle. The real fix for the whistling passenger vent window only cost me a dime. A penny would have worked but this is not a place where I wanted to be cheap on repairs I also thought it would be nice to keep the silver theme on the trim.
-d _________________ 84 Westy with a 2.1 (Groover)
86 Tintop Syncro (Crow)
86 Tintop Syncro to Westy project (Tom Servo)
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msinabottle Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Tightening the Vent Window |
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I will say that much of the fun I had was the result of the fact that the flat piece on the bottom of the pivot had fallen off and was in the gunk in the bottom of the door. I never found the original screw, either.
Thank you very much, before I forget, djkeev, for some useful, well-illustrated posts.
Best! _________________ 'Winston,' '84 1.9 WBX Westy
Vanagon Poet Laureate: "I have suffered in
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