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scrivyscriv
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I would not waste my time with the old shit.
I did a mexi swap. not too hateful...
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that, I saw it a long time ago. Does it run as quiet as the video sounds like?
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skills@eurocarsplus
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yep! I will load some pics of the car it went into...awesome...no flat spots nothing...drives like a 2015
the reason I think it's a waste using "old shit" is because of parts availability...all that stuff is getting hard to find (at least here) and will only get worse....
kind of dealing with it on my CIS cars. sucks....
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
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VWCOOL
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| What diameter are the Mexi end castings? Would they breathe a little better - or worse - than the 70s German hardware? |
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blue72beetle
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Read this thread this afternoon and spent the rest of the day researching FI options for an upright Type 1 engine. I may go this direction instead of a watercooled swap. At least it would keep the 'spirit of aircooled engine' with the benefit of better reliability.
I was looking into a Mexican Digifant swap, but Megasquirt seems to be the popular way to go.
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Brian
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Wow Skills I think this is the first engine swap thread where you didn't say "fuck it, go subaru"  
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scrivyscriv
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Is there any reason to move to the pleated paper air filters when/if I start running FI in my bus? Looks like most of the air filters changed from oil bath to pleated paper when the induction systems went to FI.
I'd prefer to keep my stock '71 oil bath setup unless the FI needs the newer style filtration.
While I'm on it, what's a good fuel line size? I've got six feet of 1/4" 304 stainless and a roll of 1/4" stainless braided Teflon hose that I was planning to use on my currently-carbed bus.
Will that size work for FI? It's easy to order something bigger now if I need more volume, I've got a -6AN fitting for the tank. I am considering running a tee at the stock outlet under the tank for supply/return, or if I run into fuel issues I can always get a screw-together fuel cell fitting and drill the tank for a dedicated return.
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blue72beetle
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for tips, 1600 Beetle FI in an early bay |
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Scriv, are you using everything from a mexican beetle?
If so, you don't need to tap the fuel tank. The fuel pump is unique in that the return goes back to the pump to be recirculated, not the tank.
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vwwestyman
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for tips, 1600 Beetle FI in an early bay |
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Is there any reason to move to the pleated paper air filters when/if I start running FI in my bus? Looks like most of the air filters changed from oil bath to pleated paper when the induction systems went to FI.
I'd prefer to keep my stock '71 oil bath setup unless the FI needs the newer style filtration.
While I'm on it, what's a good fuel line size? I've got six feet of 1/4" 304 stainless and a roll of 1/4" stainless braided Teflon hose that I was planning to use on my currently-carbed bus.
Will that size work for FI? It's easy to order something bigger now if I need more volume, I've got a -6AN fitting for the tank. I am considering running a tee at the stock outlet under the tank for supply/return, or if I run into fuel issues I can always get a screw-together fuel cell fitting and drill the tank for a dedicated return. |
I wonder if whatever is measuring the air flow would not appreciate the oil vapor that surely ends up in the intake from an oil bath filter?
That would be my main guess as to the biggest thing to consider/research if you wanted to use the oil bath.
I may have already said this in this thread, but Mexican FI would be a pretty sweet add-on to my Thing's motor! Is it a Digifant system, or did they move on to something else?
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Brian
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 1:14 am Post subject: Re: Looking for tips, 1600 Beetle FI in an early bay |
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I wanna see cfm numbers oil bath v paper elements
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 6:26 am Post subject: Re: Looking for tips, 1600 Beetle FI in an early bay |
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the o/p never made mention of what style FI he was going to run. digifart uses a map sensor in the ECU. plugged air filter =running rich (to a degree) so I think that an oil bath would be counter productive..or not but I would be aware that the digi system is map based
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
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| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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scrivyscriv
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Looking for tips, 1600 Beetle FI in an early bay |
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I've got a '79 Beetle complete injection engine I'm picking up tomorrow. Looking at pics of the air intake, I'm pretty sure the Beetle FI has a breather tube recirculating crankcase air to the intake, but is it before or after the paper filter?
the paper filter box system is hideous...
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for tips, 1600 Beetle FI in an early bay |
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| I've got a '79 Beetle complete injection engine I'm picking up tomorrow. Looking at pics of the air intake, I'm pretty sure the Beetle FI has a breather tube recirculating crankcase air to the intake, but is it before or after the paper filter? |
After! It connects into the s-boot after the AFM too, since you don't want the weight of the oil vapor messing with the precise airflow characteristics that the AFM needs to read.
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