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brodyjdavis Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2014 Posts: 89 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:01 pm Post subject: Plastic Wheel Arch Liners |
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What do you guys think of these?
http://www.busdepot.com/251800010
Has anyone ever tried them? When used in conjunction with a bedliner type paint would they be worth the cost by protecting the bedliner surface from kicks from rocks and debris? |
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noganav Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2006 Posts: 1236 Location: San Diego CA
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Seems like a place for dirt and moisture to collect.
Good bed liner is plenty tough on it's own. |
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MsTaboo Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4098 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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The main problem with them is that they don't fit very well. You have to trim to make fit and even then it's not a very good fit.
I have a set that I have installed and removed a couple times. Never put any miles on them as I wasn't comfortable with how they sat in the wheel well.
As noganav says, probably just a dirt trap.
I would like to hear from anyone who has used them for awhile. _________________ Currently:
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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I used them on a rusty Syncro during winter.
They kept the road spray off of me and front passenger.
I miss that van, it served me well. |
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smurfpike Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2010 Posts: 220 Location: Utah
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:17 am Post subject: |
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I have them and love them, they make cleaning up after trails easy, helps keep the rocks, salt and water mostly contained and they look good also. For what they do it is completely worth it. _________________ 1965 Ottinger Tribute Overland Bus
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brodyjdavis Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2014 Posts: 89 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:33 am Post subject: |
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Interesting polarized responses...what models are you using them on? I'd be looking to pop them into an '84 Westy. Just 2WD so I'm not doing a lot of tough off-roading, but I do enjoy a nice well trodden trail from time to time. |
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smurfpike Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2010 Posts: 220 Location: Utah
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:59 am Post subject: |
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I have mine on a 1987 Syncro Westy, as for a dirt trap you just need to clean the wheel well out often, the liners also allow access to clean behind them at the carwash. My wheel wells are POR 15, undercoated, fluid filmed and the liners are just another layer of protection and deflect a lot of mud, dirt, water and salt from packing in the corners and weird angles of the wells. _________________ 1965 Ottinger Tribute Overland Bus
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:01 am Post subject: |
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<When used in conjunction with a bedliner type paint would they be worth the cost by protecting the bed liner surface from kicks from rocks and debris?>
I think your double dipping yourself right out of some $$$
A good bedliner application to the wheel wells would ward off any rock and debris all by itself.
Invest in a Raptor bedliner kit,( with the spray gun included) you could almost cover the entire bottom of the Van--quiet down road noise on the inside of the van too--one stop shopping.
This would be the wiser investment & move in the long run--for about the same coin. _________________ T.K. |
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
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hans j Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2006 Posts: 2715 Location: Salt Lake City UT
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:42 am Post subject: |
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I have them and they fit decent. Mud washes off both sides pretty easy and doesn't get caked in the wheel wells as much as it used to. Good prep and coating of the wheel wells will do just as well.
The rears do cover lower and might help keep debris out of the the engine bay and above the transmission though. _________________ 1986 Canadian Syncro Westy TDI - 1989 Syncro Single Cab - 2001 Audi S4 - 1981 VW Caddy ABA - 1980 VW Caddy EV - 1973 VW T-181 |
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MsTaboo Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4098 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:58 am Post subject: |
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hans j wrote: |
The rears do cover lower and might help keep debris out of the the engine bay and above the transmission though. |
Interesting, I may have to give them another try. I'm in the process of a zero mile Zetec install and Syncro gas tank refit. Would be nice to cut down the mud and stones around the tank, transmission, and engine bay.
40,000 miles on the old Zetec install and repainted engine bay, things look pretty good but better is better! _________________ Currently:
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Greystar Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2007 Posts: 48 Location: CT
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:22 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Hans J, I've had them for over a year and they help keep salt off the pricey bits and quiet the ride some. Or so I think. I put some aluminum L across the body to frame for extra screw in points front and rear. And had to heat up and bend some areas and cut others but was worth the trouble. _________________ '87 syncro gl |
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svenakela Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2006 Posts: 776 Location: Ekerö
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know about this particular brand, I have others, and they kill a good amount of road noise too. _________________ Vanagon mirror end caps |
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smurfpike Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2010 Posts: 220 Location: Utah
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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svenakela wrote: |
I don't know about this particular brand, I have others, and they kill a good amount of road noise too. |
What brand do you have and where did you get them? How do they fit? _________________ 1965 Ottinger Tribute Overland Bus
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Unless the liners are glued tight to the inside of the wheel well,
I find it very difficult to imagine how polyethylene sitting loose in there dampens any sound from entering the interior. _________________ T.K. |
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svenakela Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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@smurfpike: I have a set I bough from a local dude and I don't know the brand. _________________ Vanagon mirror end caps |
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Thor-bob Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2011 Posts: 36 Location: The OC
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Polyethylene backed by mass loaded vinyl would be a killer app here.
If anyone makes a set, I'm in line to buy!
Thor
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Popsvan Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2010 Posts: 112 Location: Louisa, VA
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone have a picture of them installed? _________________ Rory
Louisa VA
87 Westy Automatic |
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MsTaboo Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4098 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Plastic Wheel Arch Liners |
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I have revisited this issue and with the addition of Terawagon flares I now love my rear liners!
The whole problem I had with these was trying to tuck the liner completely under the stock wheel well edge. With the Terawagon flares the liners can be mounted as intended (outer edge of the liner showing) but now they are covered up by the flare. The screws holding the flare also secure the liners to the edge of the wheel well. Everything is nice and neat, no need to trim.
Unfortunately the fronts don't work as well because the flares only cover part of the wheel well edge, so for now I'm only using the rears.
_________________ Currently:
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Syncro Jael Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2013 Posts: 2204 Location: Utah
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Plastic Wheel Arch Liners |
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I have had these for well over a year.
Mine have not held up to off-roading well. Rocks picked up on unpaved roads have been thrown against them making them crack and split. I have duct taped both sides of the cracks to seal them and keep them from getting bigger. I do like how quickly you can pressure wash the wheel wells out with these installed. Mud comes off very quickly. I remove them once in awhile and clean, Wurth Wax behind them before winters.
So far I just keep patching them up. I also used a self tapping bolt to hold the rears in place.
Not sure I will buy another set when these have used up their lifespan. _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia Hightop - NAHT
Subaru EJ25 Forged Frankenmotor, Triple Knob.
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