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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12115 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:49 am Post subject: Re: Windshield wiper arm modification |
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Butcher wrote: |
And with all the issues that Mercedes had with them as they get older. God know you do not need more crap to go wrong with what you already have. |
Yeah, I've had the rivets on those pivot arms come unpopped on me during a rain squall just south of Tacoma. I was able to re-peen them afterwards. The real flaw in this hypothetical installation on a van, is that MB actually carved out an arc in the bottom of the windshield in order to fit these, and I don't think setting them lower than that would work as well...besides the fact that you'd need to completely re-engineer the front cowl. I honestly don't think the van's swept area is really that bad. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6360 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:32 am Post subject: Re: Windshield wiper arm modification |
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djkeev wrote: |
This morning Inhappened to remember my 1970 Chevelle Malibu.....
In the late 1960's and into the early 1970's GM was bothered by unwiped glass area.
Wipers follow an arc creating semi circles of clear glass.
Bynusing an articulating wiper head, a connecting linkage and a pin near the wiper pivot they were able to eliminate the Wiper following the full arc and actually rotate at the top of the arc and slide sideways rather than continue the wiping arc.
Here are some photos that may help understand ?
Dave |
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9618 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield wiper arm modification |
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DuncanS wrote: |
The stick represents the location of where the passenger wiper arm SHOULD be.
It has always bugged me that the engineers got the pivot position in the wrong place. |
Location may be the best for left hand & right hand drive vehicles. A lot of work for small benefit only enjoyed in the snowy months. You will have to make a little sign pointing it out as nobody will ever notice the mod. And will it violate the original paint? Hmmm. And this from a guy who takes on esoteric projects at the drop of a hat.....(me). _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
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Mellow Yellow 74 Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2014 Posts: 1615 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield wiper arm modification |
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Sodo wrote: |
Location may be the best for left hand & right hand drive vehicles. |
No, RHD wipers are mirror opposite of LHD _________________ 1962 Karmann Ghia
1974 Deluxe Microbus
1985 Caravelle (Vanagon) |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32632 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield wiper arm modification |
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If you want to really make a mountain out of a molehill, chop the top the three inches the wiper arm is short.
Done--the blades will get the void outa the glass lickety split.
As long as you want to kill some time, this is the way to go. _________________ T.K. |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32632 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield wiper arm modification |
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There ya go Dave, chop the top, lower the seat-- perfect.
Go for the gusto.
Make it a real project. _________________ T.K. |
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9618 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield wiper arm modification |
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djkeev wrote: |
Mellow Yellow 74 wrote: |
Sodo wrote: |
Location may be the best for left hand & right hand drive vehicles. |
No, RHD wipers are mirror opposite of LHD |
What?! No pictures?
Dave |
Oops. Here's a pretty one. Narenda.vw's PSD Passenger Side Drive Caravelle in INDIA.
Terry Kay wrote: |
If you want to really make a mountain out of a molehill, chop the top the three inches the wiper arm is short.
Done--the blades will get the void outa the glass lickety split.
As long as you want to kill some time, this is the way to go. |
Yes. Or an anthill out of a molehill cut 1 1/2" out of the wiper arm and use wiper blade 3" longer. Can set the right side tip exactly where you want it. _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield wiper arm modification |
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I would really like to see a before & after picture of this operation--shortened arms.
Then the final swing of both arms on the glass.
A youtube video would be fine.
You just lost the opportunity of being cool.
Nobody will notice you're shorted arms. _________________ T.K. |
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield wiper arm modification |
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To address the issue of the uncleared area of the windshield from my perspective; I do sit very high in car seats. I once rented a Mercedes 190 in Europe and could not sit up straight as my head hit the overhead. So the unswept area does bother me.
For every project that we imagine, there are a bunch that "need" to be done because a genuine improvement can be made. There are also ones that "need" to be done just because the perceived issue, although not really that important, is something that we simply want to do. My log shows that I have made 65 modifications to the Carat. Other than headlight relays, headlight upgrades and probably a half dozen others, none of the other 57 really "needed" to be done, but I wanted to. And it has made my car/bus/Vanagon a great source of pleasure for me every time I open the door to get in.
So, do I really need 70 more square inches + or - to be clear on my windshield? Probably not, but I enjoy inventing problems and then solving them so I very well may mess with the wiper situation when the dash is out. This approach is what drove my successful heated steering wheel project (not one of the 65 since the final version is waiting for warmer weather). Then again something else may jump higher on the priority like the sliding glass 46" x 46" sunroof that has been designed and engineered, or the power left rear window to replace the fixed glass there. Or I may just drive the car to Connecticut and get on my sailboat (way more than 300 mods) and go sailing.
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield wiper arm modification |
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Got out my spare wiper assembly and I have to say, this is going to be one of the easiest mods I'll have done.
All that is required is to remove a section of the long link by the distance to move the pivot, reweld, and add that same amount into the short link and the motor mount. The factory motor mounts in the cowl can be used and the driver's side pivot will just go back in it's original hole. The passenger's side pivot will get cut out and be welded in the new location and the cut-out welded back in the old position. Body putty, primer and a bit of paint. 25 years of stone dings and road sand blasting has taken it's toll, so this would be the perfect time to gussie up the old girl.
In terms of the washer--
This was a mod I made years ago to accept arm mounted washer jets. I was sick of the blade blocking the stream. It works incredibly well as it sprays in a large fan pattern both above and below and the full length of the blade. A small hole gets drilled in the tin and a grommet surrounds the rubber tube which doesn't seem to mind the twisting. Before, I just abandoned the old jets, but with welding and new paint this will be the time to do it right.
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9618 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield wiper arm modification |
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DuncanS wrote: |
this would be the perfect time to gussie up the old girl.
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this will be the time to do it right. |
Press on brother! You only have to satisfy yourself. And you can comb your hair too! _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, 2Peloquins, 3knobs, pressure-oiled GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered gearbox
....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6360 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield wiper arm modification |
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ALIKA T3 wrote: |
djkeev wrote: |
This morning Inhappened to remember my 1970 Chevelle Malibu.....
In the late 1960's and into the early 1970's GM was bothered by unwiped glass area.
Wipers follow an arc creating semi circles of clear glass.
Bynusing an articulating wiper head, a connecting linkage and a pin near the wiper pivot they were able to eliminate the Wiper following the full arc and actually rotate at the top of the arc and slide sideways rather than continue the wiping arc.
Here are some photos that may help understand ?
Dave |
Hey, that was what I was trying to describe just above!! That's awesome |
And now I know the name of this system: it's called a pantograph, or at least that's what I found doing some research, came across some threads on the bus forum. _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget |
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DuncanS Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2013 Posts: 4583 Location: New Hampshire
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:55 am Post subject: Re: Windshield wiper arm modification |
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I considered the pantograph concept by just adding a new dummy arm and pivot where I wanted it, but decided that it would just be extra parts to ice up and wear out. The pantograph system is what the busses and trucks use so the blade stays mostly vertical and effectively wipes sideways. Our small area of glass should do fine (as millions of owners haven't really complained) with the conventional passenger car system. My only complaint was they just didn't get the passenger pivot in the right spot which will get corrected this summer. As I go with the welding, etc., I'll take a bunch of photos and post them right at the end of the project so that it won't take too much time to cover the thing from start to finish.
I'm amazed that with all the Vanagon nuts we all are that no one else seemed to wonder about the wiper geometry. As Butcher said, I guess I'm just one of those guys who seems to like to "go against the grain"
The wiper is only because I have to replace the front heater motor as the left outboard bearing is so worn that the shaft wobbles around with a 100db chatter. As with all my Vanagons I inserted a copper oiler tube that goes down through the dash and plastic of the blower chamber delivering the oil directly to the bearing. A drop or two every 4 months and you NEVER have to worry. Unfortunately, the PO let it sit frozen too long and the corrosion ruined the shaft even after freeing it up. The real against-the-grain Summer project is going to be using a powered passenger door window to replace the fixed left rear glass with a triangular bit of fixed glass to fill in the rest of the space. I'll create a thread for that one as it develops. |
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zak99B5 Samba Member
Joined: December 21, 2014 Posts: 471 Location: Albany, NY
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:55 am Post subject: Re: Windshield wiper arm modification |
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DuncanS wrote: |
The real against-the-grain Summer project is going to be using a powered passenger door window to replace the fixed left rear glass with a triangular bit of fixed glass to fill in the rest of the space. I'll create a thread for that one as it develops. |
Looking forward to seeing this mod! _________________ 1991 Tintop GL Manual tranny, EJ22 |
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