Which has better heat up front? |
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Passenger bus with heater log |
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Daniel G Crazy Amish Guy
Joined: April 23, 2004 Posts: 828 Location: Central Alabama Amish Country
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:39 am Post subject: One Heater Box to Cab Vs. Two |
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Is there a noticeable difference between the heat in the cab for buses with one heater box routed up front (i.e. passenger buses with a heater log) vs. those with both routed up front? Here is why I ask...I am going to turn my 13 window into a camper, so I will be running a flat floor in the back and a z-bed. I have removed the heater log already as the cargo floor is rusty around it. I did keep it so I could put it back one day if I wanted. I have a heater Y from a panel that would route both heater boxes up front that I am thinking of putting in the bus. Before I do all this work, is it even going to be worth it? I was thinking both heater boxes up front would be better...But in the Bay Window forum most people got a better result with one heater box routed to the rear and one up front, So I am curious...Those of you with both panels and passenger buses...Can you tell a difference at the defroster vents between them? _________________ 1967 13 Window Deluxe
1966 Beetle
1971 Panel
1978 Westfalia Camper
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fluxcap Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2006 Posts: 1969 Location: Newnan GA
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:51 am Post subject: |
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Ok, you've eliminated the heater log, I got that part. But are you thinking about rigging up some other type of outlet for rear heat? Or are you strictly asking if you should run both boxes with a Y pipe to the front versus just one (with no rear heat).
When we drove my bus (panel converted to camper) down to Bulli in 2012 we left pretty late at night, and it started getting COLD around midnight. I couldn't figure out why the cabin wasn't getting very warm. Turns out one of my heater cables had slipped loose on the heater box, and I was only getting half heat. Once it was hooked back up, it made a HUGE difference in heat flow.
So if your options are to either add the Y and get heat from both boxes, or just run one box, I definitely say that fabbing up the Y would be worth the effort.
If your options are to run both up front, or run one to front and one to rear (someway other than the log), I can't speak for that. _________________ Eric - 1966 camper bus
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Daniel G Crazy Amish Guy
Joined: April 23, 2004 Posts: 828 Location: Central Alabama Amish Country
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:26 am Post subject: |
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I could leave the rest of the ducting and just run an outlet from under the Z-bed for one heater box...Or I could eliminate the rear heat completely and run both heater boxes to the cab. I wanna get the best heat up front, but if there will be negligible difference between having one heater box going up front vs. both, I don't wanna do the extra work of replacing the heater Y... _________________ 1967 13 Window Deluxe
1966 Beetle
1971 Panel
1978 Westfalia Camper
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Clara Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2003 Posts: 12399
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:55 am Post subject: |
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If you have both boxes sending heater up front it does have noticable more defrost that just one up front
if you have one to the front and one to the back, it is warmer in the back that bothe to the front. Think less cold air on the back of you neck when driving.
My 15 window has the heater log in place with a bay westy z bed in the back. I cut the bed base to l fit with the log intact, and removed the door, to let heat out. When I drive to the campsite with the bed made up and heat on I have a preheated bed, which is definate bonus. |
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Riff Raff Shivering Sambian
Joined: October 25, 2004 Posts: 3096 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:12 am Post subject: |
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I live in a significantly colder climate than most bus owners.
Although I no longer drive air cooleds in the winter, spring mornings and autumn evenings are much more comfortable in a bus with some semblance of heat.
I rigged both my heater boxes to blow up front, as that is where the majority of people are, a majority of the time.
I like it.
I notice much greater heat and noticeable higher air flow coming out of the vents.
If you do most of your driving with the front seat populated and the back not so much, I recommend the modification. _________________ The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7047 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Riff Raff wrote: |
I live in a significantly colder climate than most bus owners.
Although I no longer drive air cooleds in the winter, spring mornings and autumn evenings are much more comfortable in a bus with some semblance of heat.
I rigged both my heater boxes to blow up front, as that is where the majority of people are, a majority of the time.
I like it.
I notice much greater heat and noticeable higher air flow coming out of the vents.
If you do most of your driving with the front seat populated and the back not so much, I recommend the modification. |
i would have to agree, especially in light of this becoming a camper, which would greatly benefit from a standalone heater to keep the vehicle warm while parked _________________ regards
Uli
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otis_bartleh Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2009 Posts: 1105 Location: Martinez, CA
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Funny timing for this post. I was thinking about the exact same thing for the past couple days... _________________ -Adam
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14257 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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If you're talking strictly about how much comes out in front it is hugely more. |
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oldschool64bus Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Both boxes to the front puts out WAY more air!
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oldschool64bus Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Both boxes to the front puts out WAY more air!
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Daniel G Crazy Amish Guy
Joined: April 23, 2004 Posts: 828 Location: Central Alabama Amish Country
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Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Both to the front is how I will be running it then..I would like to have good defrosters more than anything else. Down here in Alabama we have more days in the 40s and 50s with rain than unbearably cold ones in the winter. _________________ 1967 13 Window Deluxe
1966 Beetle
1971 Panel
1978 Westfalia Camper
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cru62 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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oldschool64bus wrote: |
Both boxes to the front puts out WAY more air!
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This is a pretty cool pic! _________________ "My biggest worry is that when I die, my wife will sell all my parts for what I told her I paid for them"-Jon
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7047 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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cru62 wrote: |
oldschool64bus wrote: |
Both boxes to the front puts out WAY more air!
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This is a pretty cool pic! |
impressive, but it also shows that the sunvisors are not cleverly lowered to direct the defrost heat to your body. Driving in negative 20 weather will teach you EVERY trick to keep yourselv warm in a bus (or beetle) _________________ regards
Uli
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oldschool64bus Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2005 Posts: 532 Location: Boise, Id
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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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mandraks wrote: |
cru62 wrote: |
oldschool64bus wrote: |
Both boxes to the front puts out WAY more air!
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This is a pretty cool pic! |
impressive, but it also shows that the sunvisors are not cleverly lowered to direct the defrost heat to your body. Driving in negative 20 weather will teach you EVERY trick to keep yourselv warm in a bus (or beetle) |
No visors in my bus, been missing since before I bought her. Being just over 6'1" I haven't really needed them either lol |
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Longboardluv Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2014 Posts: 934 Location: Austin TX
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: One Heater Box to Cab Vs. Two |
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I too have cut out my heater log and will have to run both heater boxes to the front. Do you have any pics of what you did? I know it's fairly straight foward but looking for any tips or tricks. |
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