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hollowseve103103 Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2007 Posts: 76
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:38 pm Post subject: New build 2180 turbo |
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Ok so I am going to build another motor, 2180 turbo motor is my choice. Not sure on compression ratio yet or heads. More of a weekend warrior street car, dd in summer Going in my 67 bug
The parts is have.
As41 dual relief case stroke clearance and tapped for full flow
Dpr 82mm crank
5.4 h beam rods
Mahle 92mm b pistons
Lube a lobe lifters
Engle tcs 20 turbo cam
Cb straight cut cam gears
Scat 1.25 rockers |
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arizonabuckeye Samba Member
Joined: November 10, 2013 Posts: 544 Location: SLC
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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What turbo and intake are you planning on? |
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Splitdog Samba Split Personality
Joined: February 16, 2004 Posts: 4125 Location: Planet VW
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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I recommend big heads, low compression ratio for street turbo. You can get the same final cylinder pressure with high compression, low boost, or low compression, high boost. I prefer low compression high boost because you're burning more air/fuel. More power. Boost increases displacement. Compression does not. Then you can cruise no problem off-boost (99% of time). Enjoy! _________________ CH³NO²
Z = z² + C
Der Blitzkrieg Kafers
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hollowseve103103 Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2007 Posts: 76
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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Ohh yeah sorry... I'm running an airresearch t3 turbo .63 prolly run a holley 500cfm . I currently run a weber 40 side draft on my 1835 turbo |
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hollowseve103103 Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2007 Posts: 76
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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So 40x37.5 drd turbo heads work? What do you guys think about compression 7 to 1 ? |
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Splitdog Samba Split Personality
Joined: February 16, 2004 Posts: 4125 Location: Planet VW
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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I'm running 76cc heads. Comp is 7.2:1. 40 X 37.5. Then I can run 15 lbs boost on pump gas. (with water/meth). _________________ CH³NO²
Z = z² + C
Der Blitzkrieg Kafers
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rs58rag Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2010 Posts: 419 Location: riverside,ca
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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8 to 1 and thickwall cylinders. |
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clonebug Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2005 Posts: 4028 Location: NW Washington
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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I'm running 7.8:1 compression.
I'm using 52 cc chamber DRD 40X37.5 heads at 22 lbs boost with WI on 92 pump gas. _________________
vwracerdave wrote: |
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That one line on that chart is probably better info than you can get from this place in a month |
My Megasquirt Fuel Injection Turbo Buggy Build
Water/Alcohol Injection
Audi TT intercooler
Upgraded to MS3Pro-Evo
EcuMaster PMU16
ECUMaster ADU5 Digital Dash
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=127936 |
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5292 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:19 am Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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on My 1915 I have some 044's semi-hemi 80cc 40x35 running 7:1
15 lbs on pump gas
45 DCOE draw threw
Hauls A$$ _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
"If I'm ever on Life Support,UNPLUG Me, Then Plug me back In see if that Works" |
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miniman82 Samba Swamp Donkey
Joined: March 22, 2005 Posts: 9515 Location: Southern Maryland
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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My 1915:
7.3:1, 64cc 044 CNC round port heads, zero deck, .060 copperheads, Garrett T3, CB EFI intakes and EFI by Megasquirt/ignition by EDIS (crank trigger). Hauls azz at 15 lbs, that was with no intercooler. Shooting for 20 when I get it back on the road, with a PWR barrel cooler and ice. _________________ Build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212747
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Splitdog Samba Split Personality
Joined: February 16, 2004 Posts: 4125 Location: Planet VW
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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Did you ever have to retorque the heads with those copper gaskets? _________________ CH³NO²
Z = z² + C
Der Blitzkrieg Kafers
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Dauz Samba Member
Joined: January 05, 2010 Posts: 1790
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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770CFM four-barrel, T60-1, 44x37.5 ported and polished/port matched end castings, FK8 + 1.4 rockers, 84x94mm, mahles + powersleeves and copper heads gaskets, 8.3:1 CR. The carburetor is built by Ron Lummus and stays slightly rich ON BOOST 10.8:1 to 11.2:1 from 10 to 30psi.. and without changing jets. No dealing with lean flat spots and stumbles. Also brought heat up to the manifold with oil lines to keep the fuel from icing or puddling in addition to cooling the oil. I've never seen temps above 210 in stop and go traffic and only runs on two barrels off boost. Secondaries open up on boost and at WOT you see your life flash before your eyes. I've been overwhelming busy with work/travel but stand by for dyno results. |
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miniman82 Samba Swamp Donkey
Joined: March 22, 2005 Posts: 9515 Location: Southern Maryland
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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Splitdog wrote: |
Did you ever have to retorque the heads with those copper gaskets? |
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That's a composite gasket water pumper practice. _________________ Build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212747
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hollowseve103103 Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2007 Posts: 76
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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So I think I have decided on 40x37.5 big valve heads and 92 think wall cylinders. And will probably shoot for a cr of 7.5-1 . I will start assymbling lower soon. My question is since my case is stroke reliefed do I need to trim my cam bearing down where it hangs over the saddle from when the clearance the case or do I leave it? Thanks also think I've decided on fitech f.i. from lowbugget. |
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Dauz Samba Member
Joined: January 05, 2010 Posts: 1790
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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Not sure why you wouldn't just go blow-through if you want fuel injection. |
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hollowseve103103 Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2007 Posts: 76
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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The kit from lowbugget is pretty cheap and had a dash display.seems to be pretty user friendly. Plus I am already running a draw through set up so I don't have to change anything |
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5292 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:12 am Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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cam bearing ,, trim it _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
"If I'm ever on Life Support,UNPLUG Me, Then Plug me back In see if that Works" |
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hollowseve103103 Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2007 Posts: 76
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo |
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So... story of my life more bad luck....lol. started assymbling motor got cam bearings in, crank put together and went to pull bolts out of rods all but one of the rods were fine. Got to the last one and they were snug and couldn't get with a wrench to I zipped it with impact and pulled threads out of the cap. Is this repairable or does anyone e have just 1 empi 5.4 h beam rod lying around? Sucks lol |
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