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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:38 pm    Post subject: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

Ok so I am going to build another motor, 2180 turbo motor is my choice. Not sure on compression ratio yet or heads. More of a weekend warrior street car, dd in summer Going in my 67 bug

The parts is have.

As41 dual relief case stroke clearance and tapped for full flow
Dpr 82mm crank
5.4 h beam rods
Mahle 92mm b pistons
Lube a lobe lifters
Engle tcs 20 turbo cam
Cb straight cut cam gears
Scat 1.25 rockers
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:09 pm    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

What turbo and intake are you planning on?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

I recommend big heads, low compression ratio for street turbo. You can get the same final cylinder pressure with high compression, low boost, or low compression, high boost. I prefer low compression high boost because you're burning more air/fuel. More power. Boost increases displacement. Compression does not. Then you can cruise no problem off-boost (99% of time). Enjoy!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:32 pm    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

Ohh yeah sorry... I'm running an airresearch t3 turbo .63 prolly run a holley 500cfm . I currently run a weber 40 side draft on my 1835 turbo
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

So 40x37.5 drd turbo heads work? What do you guys think about compression 7 to 1 ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

I'm running 76cc heads. Comp is 7.2:1. 40 X 37.5. Then I can run 15 lbs boost on pump gas. (with water/meth).
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

8 to 1 and thickwall cylinders.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:34 pm    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

I'm running 7.8:1 compression.
I'm using 52 cc chamber DRD 40X37.5 heads at 22 lbs boost with WI on 92 pump gas.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

on My 1915 I have some 044's semi-hemi 80cc 40x35 running 7:1
15 lbs on pump gas
45 DCOE draw threw
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

My 1915:

7.3:1, 64cc 044 CNC round port heads, zero deck, .060 copperheads, Garrett T3, CB EFI intakes and EFI by Megasquirt/ignition by EDIS (crank trigger). Hauls azz at 15 lbs, that was with no intercooler. Shooting for 20 when I get it back on the road, with a PWR barrel cooler and ice.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

Did you ever have to retorque the heads with those copper gaskets?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

770CFM four-barrel, T60-1, 44x37.5 ported and polished/port matched end castings, FK8 + 1.4 rockers, 84x94mm, mahles + powersleeves and copper heads gaskets, 8.3:1 CR. The carburetor is built by Ron Lummus and stays slightly rich ON BOOST 10.8:1 to 11.2:1 from 10 to 30psi.. and without changing jets. No dealing with lean flat spots and stumbles. Also brought heat up to the manifold with oil lines to keep the fuel from icing or puddling in addition to cooling the oil. I've never seen temps above 210 in stop and go traffic and only runs on two barrels off boost. Secondaries open up on boost and at WOT you see your life flash before your eyes. I've been overwhelming busy with work/travel but stand by for dyno results.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

Splitdog wrote:
Did you ever have to retorque the heads with those copper gaskets?


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That's a composite gasket water pumper practice. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:08 pm    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

So I think I have decided on 40x37.5 big valve heads and 92 think wall cylinders. And will probably shoot for a cr of 7.5-1 . I will start assymbling lower soon. My question is since my case is stroke reliefed do I need to trim my cam bearing down where it hangs over the saddle from when the clearance the case or do I leave it? Thanks also think I've decided on fitech f.i. from lowbugget.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

Not sure why you wouldn't just go blow-through if you want fuel injection.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

The kit from lowbugget is pretty cheap and had a dash display.seems to be pretty user friendly. Plus I am already running a draw through set up so I don't have to change anything
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:12 am    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

cam bearing ,, trim it Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: New build 2180 turbo Reply with quote

So... story of my life more bad luck....lol. started assymbling motor got cam bearings in, crank put together and went to pull bolts out of rods all but one of the rods were fine. Got to the last one and they were snug and couldn't get with a wrench to I zipped it with impact and pulled threads out of the cap. Is this repairable or does anyone e have just 1 empi 5.4 h beam rod lying around? Sucks lol
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