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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:15 pm    Post subject: Have title...no car Reply with quote

So somehow over the years I've acquired a California title for a '59 bug. It was signed over in 1982 so it's clear. But, I have no idea where the car is. Obviously, the serendipitous ending to this story would be that someone out there has a '59 bug that they don't know what to do with because it has no paperwork but then here I come to save the day! Laughing

Anyways, like I said, clear California title, '59 bug, VIN# 439253, registration expired in 1982, and that's when the title was signed over. The owner lived in Escalon.

If it's garbage, I'll throw it away. Let me know what I should do?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

Interesting. I live 10 minutes from Escalon.

I'd hold on to it. You never know.

Do you happen to have a name or address? I could always drive by and see if there's a '59 parked out there.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

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Escalon CA 95320

Let me know! Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

Don't throw it away. Buggy builder somewhere needs a sacrificial title to register. Titles go for about 500 around here.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

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Escalon CA 95320

Let me know! Cool


Well this is interesting. Here's google maps of that address. Look at the property to the left (which could be the actual address as google maps is off sometimes) does the gray car next to the blue tarp look like it could be a bug?

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This is as far as I can zoom in on my phone. Bottom right above the word "details". I think this is worth checking out after work tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

That address is actually for a small mobile home park.
The latest Google Maps doesnt show any bugs on that property or the house next door.
I did go out and check the Vin on my 63 on a 59 pan, no match.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

slave1pilot wrote:
That address is actually for a small mobile home park.
The latest Google Maps doesnt show any bugs on that property or the house next door.
I did go out and check the Vin on my 63 on a 59 pan, no match.


Well then. It's so close to me I may just drive out there tomorrow anyways. Otherwise I'll always wonder "what if".
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

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Well then. It's so close to me I may just drive out there tomorrow anyways. Otherwise I'll always wonder "what if".


By all means, please do.
and if you want info on the PO, here's a little
She's 63 now
She lives in Modesto on Sunset Blvd. ( i don't know the house number), which is a very short street over by Modesto High School.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sunset+Blvd,+Mod...21.0026047

She also has a PO Box as a mailing address:
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I hope that helps a little.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

Awesome. Sunset is less than 2 miles from me. I'm just more curious than anything at this point about what happened to the car. Who knows maybe it's tucked away in a garage and I'll have a cool story to tell.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

just dont get shot trying to get a stroy on vega in the back yard turned upside down..... hey i have a car with no title!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:17 am    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

you should just buy a drone and fly it around over the property
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:18 am    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

got a few titles without cars myself.

hoping one day I find the cars completely restored and then I can take possession of them Laughing Laughing

It amazes me how many ppl will buy a car without a title thinking that they are in the clear and actually "own" the thing..
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:27 am    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

you should just buy a drone and fly it around over the property
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:37 am    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

Well at least she's still alive! She signed the title over so I'm assuming she sold it. I got it from a guy in Eastern Oregon but like I said, no car.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

To the OP-
I'm glad you're glossing right over talk about drones and selling the title to someone who wants to commit dune buggy fraud.

Simply let Cal Army Guy find the lady- and ask here about the beetle. When she says who she sold it to- ask here if she thinks they would like the title to it. Anybody with a family, home or a conscience would do the same. I personally have plenty of energy to help people- but a lot to lose when fuc*ing around with fraud and horseshit like unpermissed surveillance.

By chance did the title come from the late Bill Mays?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

Give me a couple hours and I'll see what I can figure out.

And no I'm not flying a drone over people's back yards for something as silly as finding a car that has nothing to do with me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

Having a title doesnt mean anything. If it is still on the road it has been registered. If it is registered how can you say it was yours for 30 years and didnt know it was missing. If it is off the road and crushed you can't do anything legal with it and posting about it would be foolish.

It goes the other way, car then title. Not title then car.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

Wouldn't it be some shit if the OP tracked down the latest person that had the car & they just recently junked it because they didn't have a title.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

jason wrote:
Having a title doesnt mean anything.

It goes the other way, car then title. Not title then car.


does that mean house/land before title/deed as well Shocked

walked past a vacant house the other day and think I'm going to claim it as mine...and then sell it to ya for $1000!!

Title comes first.
All others are fraudulent vins/registrations to the vehicle.
let's see you take a car down to your local state police/MVA and ask them to register it without a title.

(I know, there are loopholes in Maine and probably some other states, but you all know your getting away with something when you "fake"it....)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Have title...no car Reply with quote

vwinnovator wrote:
jason wrote:
Having a title doesnt mean anything.

It goes the other way, car then title. Not title then car.


does that mean house/land before title/deed as well Shocked

walked past a vacant house the other day and think I'm going to claim it as mine...and then sell it to ya for $1000!!

Title comes first.
All others are fraudulent vins/registrations to the vehicle.
let's see you take a car down to your local state police/MVA and ask them to register it without a title.

(I know, there are loopholes in Maine and probably some other states, but you all know your getting away with something when you "fake"it....)

There have been some "squatters rights" claims to property & less than reputable companies & people that have placed liens on properties .
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