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Goodthymes Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2012 Posts: 43 Location: Moose Jaw, Sask.
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:01 pm Post subject: Spray Adhesive for Interior Panels |
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Hey Gang.
I am about to upholster the interior panels in my '61 mango. I initially bought 3M Super 77 spray adhesive although I was since told that I should use something more heat stable. Super 77 appears to be heat stable up to 62C (~145F). I can't imagine the interior would get hotter than that on a sunny day (By the way, it's not a daily driver. The only time it'd sit in the hot sun is at car shows). Anyway, I was told I should use the 3M 8088 at minimum. Thing is, this stuff is twice the price and you have to use a shit-ton of it.
Has anyone used Super 77 on their panels? I'm looking at you Texas, Arizona, Florida, and SoCal bus owners. Any wrinkling or peeling?
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zozo Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2005 Posts: 5217 Location: South of Ol' San Antonio
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adhesive for Interior Panels |
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Get the best. I'm in South Texas and have tried MANY different adhesives. That have ALL proven inadequate. I'll never use a spray can adhesive again. The landau top adhesive is the next on my list should I need adhesive in the future. |
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twistedbug Samba Member
Joined: January 15, 2006 Posts: 675
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adhesive for Interior Panels |
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3m makes a fabric headliner 90 spray, I used 77 when I made my panels with no issue. next time I will use the fabric 90 headliner just to see, here's a couple pics of the panels I made, I used sqback and bug exterior trim to hide the seams
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55samba Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2002 Posts: 805 Location: CA Bay Area
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adhesive for Interior Panels |
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I have tried all of the 3m spray can adhesives. The vinyl will eventually pull of the backing.
Contact cement was recommended to me by my local upholstery shop. I only had good results when I shot it though a paint gun, shoot both sides then let them tack up. You can't use the low VOC stuff in the green can, well you can... it just wont hold. |
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Goodthymes Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2012 Posts: 43 Location: Moose Jaw, Sask.
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adhesive for Interior Panels |
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Thanks for the feedback...much appreciated. I think I'll get in touch with a couple more upholsterers before I start. I'm going to give the 8088 a shot regardless...I'll start with the kick panels and the rear gate panel. That's probably all that can will do anyway. |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:19 am Post subject: Re: Spray Adhesive for Interior Panels |
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90 is better than 77- but it will still peel if the vinyl you're using it on is backed. If your vinyl has the white, meshed backing- it's too porous for anything sold over the counter in an aerosol can.
As said- landau adhesive sprayed from a pressure pot gun is the only way to go: DAP Weldwood Contact Adhesive. _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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Stocknazi Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2004 Posts: 5150
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:04 am Post subject: Re: Spray Adhesive for Interior Panels |
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hitest wrote: |
90 is better than 77- but it will still peel if the vinyl you're using it on is backed. If your vinyl has the white, meshed backing- it's too porous for anything sold over the counter in an aerosol can.
As said- landau adhesive sprayed from a pressure pot gun is the only way to go: DAP Weldwood Contact Adhesive. |
Do the 3M spray can adhesives work ok with original material that is being re-glued to a new panel board? _________________ WANTED:
58 Westfalia cabinet knobs (3 needed), roof rack, and (7) privy tent poles (silver painted).
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56reddy Samba Member
Joined: October 22, 2005 Posts: 774
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Spray Adhesive for Interior Panels |
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I would only use DAP Weldwood Landau top Adhesive.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads20/DAP1342538910.jpg
Buy a cheap Harbor Freight spray gun to spray it, and mineral spirits for clean up. _________________ New Vintage Specialist.
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zozo Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2005 Posts: 5217 Location: South of Ol' San Antonio
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Spray Adhesive for Interior Panels |
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This. This is what I was referencing earlier in the thread. |
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Goodthymes Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2012 Posts: 43 Location: Moose Jaw, Sask.
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adhesive for Interior Panels |
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So you guys are telling me I'd need to buy a new air compressor and a spray gun? And a big can of goo? Damn.
I'll let y'all know how it goes... |
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Clara Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2003 Posts: 12401
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:21 am Post subject: Re: Spray Adhesive for Interior Panels |
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Goodthymes wrote: |
So you guys are telling me I'd need to buy a new air compressor and a spray gun? And a big can of goo? Damn.
I'll let y'all know how it goes... |
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gondiwindi Samba Member
Joined: December 12, 2006 Posts: 1195 Location: Tampa Bay, FL
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adhesive for Interior Panels |
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I was thinking of doing this but figured that it was cheaper especially when factoring in my time and the high probability that I will screw this up to simply buy a new set. Best of luck with everything. |
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lumber-baron Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2010 Posts: 394 Location: Golden, CO
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joefriday Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2015 Posts: 179 Location: Richland WA
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adhesive for Interior Panels |
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I need to glue down my original material in several places and don't want to do it twice, it's fragile. Would the landau cover glue be best?
Also, when flattening the existing cardboard where it has pulled away, any advice other than just putting weight on it? I read somewhere to wet it. Again, it's fragile and not sure the screws won't pull through it so I'd like to flatten it first.
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adhesive for Interior Panels |
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Stocknazi- I've only used the cans for small areas- not for full panel replacements of factory vinyl- but I imagine it would work because it is actually sticking to a lot of residual factory glue.
On the subject of money I can't think of any job that's cheaper to do twice.
There's an infamous phrase coined that sums up doing something right the first time- even at greater expense. Gene Berg said, "cry once." _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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esde Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 5969 Location: central rust belt
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Spray Adhesive for Interior Panels |
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joefriday wrote: |
I need to glue down my original material in several places and don't want to do it twice, it's fragile. Would the landau cover glue be best?
Also, when flattening the existing cardboard where it has pulled away, any advice other than just putting weight on it? I read somewhere to wet it. Again, it's fragile and not sure the screws won't pull through it so I'd like to flatten it first.
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Wet the back with a spray bottle and lay the panel between two sheets of plywood. Set some weight on top and leave it for a day or two. It will warp again if you don't get it installed pronto, but if you get it screwed down it usually stays flat _________________ modok wrote:
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