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adamrush! Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2010 Posts: 29 Location: uk
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:58 am Post subject: starter motor overheating |
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I've just fitted a new turn key engine (2017) but it's over heating the starter motor it's fitted in my type3, I've tried 2 starters with the same problem. Any ideas? |
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raul arrese Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2006 Posts: 1329 Location: miami florida
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:43 am Post subject: Re: starter motor overheating |
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Well has the motor ever run ?? how does the motor turn by hand ?? 3 starters ?? somthing isnt right ... _________________ " Hot vw feature , may 2014 issue "
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rockurob Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2009 Posts: 358 Location: Okla City, Oklahoma
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adamrush! Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2010 Posts: 29 Location: uk
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:21 am Post subject: Re: starter motor overheating |
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Yes engine is ran in had it started, will double check earth straps but did clean them up as gearbox went in. |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20377 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:40 am Post subject: Re: starter motor overheating |
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Over heating starter is from cranking to long.... Let starter rest between cranking sessions, if motor is hard starting that may be problem and may not be starter motor...
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drumbum68 Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2010 Posts: 566
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:11 am Post subject: Re: starter motor overheating |
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Try doubling up your ground. |
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adamrush! Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2010 Posts: 29 Location: uk
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:13 am Post subject: Re: starter motor overheating |
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Just checked all earth's all OK, not cranking for too long and it gets too hot to touch, engine turns over fine and have had a started briefly |
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kokanee Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2007 Posts: 329 Location: Washougal WA
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:49 am Post subject: Re: starter motor overheating |
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Starter bushing in the trans is bad or not there |
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FreeBug Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2012 Posts: 4278 Location: deepest, darkest Switzerland
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: starter motor overheating |
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If the bushing in the transmission has play, that can happen, and drain the battery quick.
The principle behind the invention of the starter motor is that it cannot be used for any continuous length of time, say over 5-10 secs or so.
There's also a 12V and 6V version of that bushing, different diameters. |
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miniman82 Samba Swamp Donkey
Joined: March 22, 2005 Posts: 9515 Location: Southern Maryland
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: starter motor overheating |
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6v starter on a 12v system? _________________ Build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212747
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31360 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: starter motor overheating |
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adamrush! wrote: |
Just checked all earth's all OK, not cranking for too long and it gets too hot to touch, engine turns over fine and have had a started briefly |
1. New engine will have more friction.
2. My guess is that engine of that size has higher compression than stock and will be tougher to spin.
3. Engine spins and starts, are you sure there is a real problem? Some of us - even in Arizona desert - have never felt or measured our starter's temperatures.
4. Self-supported autostick starters have a little more oomph. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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