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acuozzo Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2012 Posts: 12 Location: Orange, CT
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:43 pm Post subject: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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Does anybody sell a pre - shortened clucth cable...the shortening kit mauls the cable |
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tgodber Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2004 Posts: 410 Location: Okanagan Falls B.C. Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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Yes there are shortened cables available. I used the shortener that bends the cable over and a nut tightens up against it. That broke in 3 months. I used two cable clamps and a piece of !/4 inch threaded rod. That has lasted 9 years.
Here is a good thread.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=465764&highlight=shorten+clutch+cable _________________ My wife said I never listen to her.
Or something like that! |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20377 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:56 am Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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A simple solution is just put a 360 degree loop in cable and a couple of cable clamps to hold loop... No cutting, no frayed ends, loop lays on top transaxle and is not a problem...
These people will make any custom length cable you want...
http://push-pull.com/
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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acuozzo Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2012 Posts: 12 Location: Orange, CT
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:18 am Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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Dale M. wrote: |
A simple solution is just put a 360 degree loop in cable and a couple of cable clamps to hold loop... No cutting, no frayed ends, loop lays on top transaxle and is not a problem...
These people will make any custom length cable you want...
http://push-pull.com/
Dale |
And theres the next question...Anyone have the length to use so I'm not buried on my back under the buggy? |
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8699 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:58 am Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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The length depends on the year of your chassis and how much it has been shortened. You will have to measure to get the correct length. _________________ Brian
'69 Dune Buggy
'69 Beetle Convertible
'70 Beetle |
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MrGoodtunes Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2012 Posts: 851 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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tgodber wrote: |
...I used the shortener that bends the cable over and a nut tightens up against it. That broke in 3 months... |
Me too. Mine broke while in the parking lot of Lowe's home improvement store. So I had a store full of things like threaded rod, long nuts, and good strong but also flexible garage door opener cable. Did the fix right there in the parking lot. That was 1999 and this rig is still holding today.
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20377 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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acuozzo wrote: |
Dale M. wrote: |
A simple solution is just put a 360 degree loop in cable and a couple of cable clamps to hold loop... No cutting, no frayed ends, loop lays on top transaxle and is not a problem...
These people will make any custom length cable you want...
http://push-pull.com/
Dale |
And theres the next question...Anyone have the length to use so I'm not buried on my back under the buggy? |
Run a piece of (bailing) wire down through tube, loop one end around hook for clutch pedal, and give yourself a few inches past clutch arm at transaxle... Mark or cut wire... The will be your length...
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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hopkin Samba Member
Joined: June 25, 2012 Posts: 2480 Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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I saw this shortened cable on a Dune Buggy at a show I attended a few months ago. If you zoom in on the cable you can how the owner cut the cable and reconnected the shorter pieces:
_________________ 1971 Super Beetle (past)
1971 Super Beetle (past)
1974 SunBug (past)
1972 914 (past)
1991 Honda Civic (Original Owner)
1996 'Open Air' Mexican Beetle (current)
2015 Golf (current)
2017 Dune Edition (daughter's car) |
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hillmotorsports Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2014 Posts: 432 Location: Morrisburg, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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I'm curious if he experiences any issues from the lack of Bowden tube....
Any idea of the purpose of the cross cable with the turnbuckle? _________________ Rosemarie and Paul Hill
Morrisburg, Ontario
(With way more projects than spare time!) |
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hopkin Samba Member
Joined: June 25, 2012 Posts: 2480 Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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I didn't have a chance to talk with the owner, the picture was taken not too far from you, in Smiths Falls.
But I did get some more pictures of the Dune Buggy:
_________________ 1971 Super Beetle (past)
1971 Super Beetle (past)
1974 SunBug (past)
1972 914 (past)
1991 Honda Civic (Original Owner)
1996 'Open Air' Mexican Beetle (current)
2015 Golf (current)
2017 Dune Edition (daughter's car) |
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andk5591 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16757 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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How much to shorten the cable is the amount that you shortened the pan. I have done a couple different ways. Our buggy has the loop, and I have done a couple with the clutch cable shortener that you find in the kits, but I dont like the way it stressed the cable if you clamp it with the big nut, so I just snug it some and use 3 of those little cable clamps that Mr Goodtunes used. Have never had one come apart. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard Beetle hearse project - For sale
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
There's more, but not keeping them... |
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saw2 Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2008 Posts: 321 Location: nw Oregon
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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Here's what I came up with to shorten clutch cable. Happened to see the cable compression clamp at Harbor Freight. Cut off the eye in bottom of picture. Welded on bolt. Rethreaded stock clutch wing nut to fit. Has been on for about a year no problems at all with a long clutch arm and Kennedy Stage 1 plate.
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andk5591 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16757 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:40 am Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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Saw - that is clean.....Love it. May try that next time. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard Beetle hearse project - For sale
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
There's more, but not keeping them... |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20377 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:22 am Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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Only problem is when ever I see this fix I go to HF site and can never find the silly cable clamp........
But I did find this.. Check out catalog page 1469
http://www.mcmaster.com/#rope-clamps/=13w5dzb
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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saw2 Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2008 Posts: 321 Location: nw Oregon
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:24 am Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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Dale, I agree on trying to find this clamp at Harbor Freight online. I just happened to see it while browsing at my local Harbor Freight store. Seen them and thought maybe it would work for shortening clutch cable with a little work. If I recall it was not very expensive. If it didn't work not out mucn $.
Next time I go into me local H.F. store I'll see if they still have them and if so I'll get and post the H.F. Item #. Incase anyone else is interested.
I know this style clamp is also available at some marine, sailing rigging stores but they are rather expensive. |
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Goshen Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2012 Posts: 833 Location: Miami. FL & Cartagena
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JiI Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2006 Posts: 1845 Location: Michigan
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saw2 Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2008 Posts: 321 Location: nw Oregon
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:55 pm Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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Yes, that is the exact same one in the posted link above. Still could not find the H.F. Part # online. I will post part# if my local H.F. store still carries them. |
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andk5591 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16757 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:35 am Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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Look for swageless stud. All I had found were stainless ones that were pretty salty....Pun intended.... _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard Beetle hearse project - For sale
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
There's more, but not keeping them... |
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saw2 Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2008 Posts: 321 Location: nw Oregon
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Shortened Clutch Cable |
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Stopped by my local Harbor Freight today they still stocked the cable fitting.
The H.F item# is 96900. Cost was $7.49. These are also stainless steel. Tried using item number on their website search. There it was. At least with the number if you stop by a H.F. store they can look it up and see if they stock or can get it.
Usually in these stores not many clerks really know what all they stock. They are located with the rolls of wire rope and accessories. Picked another one up myself for parts box.
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