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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:30 am Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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let us know how the steering wheel feels - with urethane it could be a bit harsh. Are you doing your own bus or trying to see what is out there? Robbie thought the place in Valencia has the good ones. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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curtis4085 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2011 Posts: 4806 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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I've bought a few cip1 couplers and they had a VW stampings on them. _________________ Special Thanks to:
Headflow Masters - Vista, CA
www.headflowmasters.com |
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Hoody Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2007 Posts: 1948
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:49 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Check Bughaus. Their site says its a German part. I have had very good results with ordering from them. |
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THall Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2010 Posts: 324 Location: Verona, WI
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Hoody wrote: |
Check Bughaus. Their site says its a German part. I have had very good results with ordering from them. |
I decided to give this a try...and here it is. Can't say if it's truly a German part as there are no markings on it at all. I suspect it isn't, but it seems quite solid.
_________________ '78 Westy - 2.0 FI |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:18 am Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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THall wrote: |
Hoody wrote: |
Check Bughaus. Their site says its a German part. I have had very good results with ordering from them. |
I decided to give this a try...and here it is. Can't say if it's truly a German part as there are no markings on it at all. I suspect it isn't, but it seems quite solid.
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Eric only sells things that are good quality. He's always done right by things I've gotten from him. You'll be happy with it. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Tom Powell Samba Member
Joined: December 01, 2005 Posts: 4855 Location: Kaneohe
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Looks good to me. I see a nice fiber core. Try bending it in your hands. Does it fold like a tortilla or stay stiff as a sore back?
Aloha
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sjbartnik Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2011 Posts: 5998 Location: Brooklyn
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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That looks like a proper one.
Apparently you got the last one too as their site is now showing out of stock _________________ 1965 Volkswagen 1500 Variant S
2000 Kawasaki W650 |
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THall Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2010 Posts: 324 Location: Verona, WI
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Tom Powell wrote: |
Does it fold like a tortilla or stay stiff as a sore back?
Aloha
tp |
It's nice and stiff...no tortilla _________________ '78 Westy - 2.0 FI |
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BayCreamPuff Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2015 Posts: 769 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:56 am Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Picked up a couple from CIP1. They sell two different versions.
This is the good one currently on sale for $23.99
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC-211-415-417-GR
The rubber is hard and can't be bent. Has original looking markings with the VW logo ground off.
_________________ Cream Puff
'79 CA Stock FI Deluxe Campmobile
Earl Grey
'87 GoWesty 2.2 Westfalia
Marsha Mellow
'00 Eurovan VR6 Full Camper |
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BusterBrown Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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I received one a few days ago (same one), and yes, it looks to be the quality product we want for this application. I'm going to buy another one for my other bus, now that I see that the quality is good. _________________ 1978 Sage Green Westfalia (Happy Trails, SOLD)
1977 Transporter
Life is short. Can I have some of yours? |
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sjbartnik Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2011 Posts: 5998 Location: Brooklyn
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Yes SGF is the manufacturer, that is VW OEM German.
I found their web site, their entire business is making these type of flexible couplers for power transmission - steering couplers, driveshaft couplers, etc. _________________ 1965 Volkswagen 1500 Variant S
2000 Kawasaki W650 |
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Received this order today. http://www.ebay.com/itm/172328271951
Did not receive the IAP coupler, but rather the Premium Quality coupler.
Not impressed.
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BusterBrown Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Good to know. Thanks for the heads up. _________________ 1978 Sage Green Westfalia (Happy Trails, SOLD)
1977 Transporter
Life is short. Can I have some of yours? |
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Vintage Parts is out of Stock
Bughaus site shows them out of stock, just got of the phone with them, they have them in stock.
http://www.bughaus.com/Steering_Coupler_-_211415417.htm
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sjbartnik Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2011 Posts: 5998 Location: Brooklyn
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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The Premium Quality coupler is garbage. Was folding over so much in use it made my horn sound itself. _________________ 1965 Volkswagen 1500 Variant S
2000 Kawasaki W650 |
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BusterBrown Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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I really think this one is the current deal to be had. Stock up now at $23.99 (from cip1.com) while you have the chance. Next week who knows what will be available.
I bought 2, and they look great. _________________ 1978 Sage Green Westfalia (Happy Trails, SOLD)
1977 Transporter
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211 415 417 (coupler) T2 |
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I was unable to subject the couplers to shear strength testing. Which would be the best test method. That being said.
Using my hands I twisted and compressed the couplers.
cip1: is much stiffer and most resistant to twisting and compression of the three I tested.
Note: 8mm bolts used.
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC-211-415-417-GR
Bughaus: was a close second. Not as stiff and a little easier to twist. But
I would expect this coupler to function well in service.
http://www.bughaus.com/Steering_Coupler_-_211415417.htm
Premium Quality: this coupler was too soft and was easily twisted and distorted. I would not put this coupler into service and sent it back.
Tcash
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16879 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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thanks guys....
seeing WW carries that woven "rag joint" I stocked up and blew a wad of money at CIP.
sad to think that these are getting hard to find too. I think I have 2 OE ones on the shelf, and ordered another one.
I really need to sit down and see what is going out of stock these days. I think I bought the last of the nice early bay emblem clips from them too...the nice plastic ones that were real VW...now they sell these cheese dog ones...
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211853615
the OE were nice thick plastic with a diesel head that spaced the emblem off the nose a red one... _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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BusterBrown Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:58 am Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211 415 417 (coupler) |
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Tcash wrote: |
I was unable to subject the couplers to shear strength testing. Which would be the best test method. That being said.
Using my hands I twisted and compressed the couplers.
cip1: is much stiffer and most resistant to twisting and compression of the three I tested.
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Excellent report Tcash! Thanks for your quality addition to this thread. Who would have thought that so much could be said about a little square piece of rubber?
Remember everyone, that this little square piece of rubber, all by itself, connects your steering column to your front end and wheels. If it fails, you will be turning your steering wheel to no avail, as your bus careens wildly down the road, with a mind of its own. _________________ 1978 Sage Green Westfalia (Happy Trails, SOLD)
1977 Transporter
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