1939 VW found in the Netherlands?

[roho]

Ok guys, I just bumped into this article:

http://www.ad.nl/buitenland/kever-van-nazi-stond-jaren-in-zeeuwse-tuin~a121bcef7/

Unfortunately in Dutch, but it says that a 1939 VW has been found in a garden in Zeeland (a province in the Netherlands) and that it once belonged to the wife of Arthur Seyss-Inquart, a prominent Nazi (he was the much hated 'Reichskommissar' for the occupied Netherlands and was executed after the war).

There is little to go on at this stage and it all seems a liitle bit hard to believe. Also the license plates they show are definitely non-Dutch. They might be the ones used during the occupation though, I know nothing about those.

Apparently the car has been sold to a private museum.

What do you guys make of this?

[Bala]

Here's the picture and an auto translation to save the info. on the samba:

[1960Turkis]

The (former) owner is known in the aircooled scene. He has joined meetings in this split bus for instance. Sonnemans is the name of his bakery.

For me that is the most strange part of this story. I can't imagine that he didn't know what he had.

Two other pictures I found of this bug. Unfortunatly they don't show much more.

[MDKG]

Bit odd story . Perhaps the baker was quoted wrong or he made up the '39 story? I have never been at this place but it is quite well known in the Dutch ACVW scene and it has or had some more interesting vehicles like this one

Looks like a Police Heb or Papler but is apparently a Mex or at least a much younger model.

Here's some more pictures and discussion (in Dutch)

http://keversite.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22520&hilit=haamstede

I would not be surprised if the "'39" is also pieced together

[MDKG]

http://www.pzc.nl/regio/schouwen-duiveland/seyss-i...-1.6386851

This article says it is bought by Eef Peters director of WWII Wartime Museum in Arnhem (www.arnhemsoorlogsmuseum.com) and that the car is a 1939 body on a 60s pan. I wonder if mr Peters made the call to Hessisch Oldendorf already

Can't wait to see more info pop up

[wimkever]

I've read the story in two different newspapers.
I have to conclude that this story is complete bull shit.
Nobody leaves a car like that for decades in a garden and the former owner does know a lot about (old) beetles.
The statement that the restauration should take 4K in parts is totally ridiculous.
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[simmy]

FAKE! 1950 BODY

[1960Turkis]

[MDKG]

Saw the link on Keversite. Thanks for positng here Turkis. Bumpers and fenders are definately not 1939 but otherwise I leave it up to the experts to comment . Condition is outstanding given that it has been outside for so long.... .

[roho]

Cool, more good quality pictures!

Even I can see the bumpers don't match, but considering what needed to be done to the 1938 beetle we all know, this is a minor detail.

I am just wondering what it really is. Is the body really a 1939 one? Is the floorpan really from the sixties? Why leave it outside for so long, especially with a 1939 body and the (in)famous) owner? How will it be restored? By whom? Will it be displayed soon? Will we see it at VW meetings?

[simmy]

[simmy]

[MDKG]

My I ask where you found the last pictures simmy?

Judging by the pictures it does have a lot of characteristics from a 1950 split... Also big coincidence the tag is missing....

Maybe the new owner wants to try to create a hype and then sell for big $$$?

[vintage fiberglass]

I just heard from a friend today that this car was a 1943 body on ??? chassie. I also heard there was a 1950 VW bus there?? sold that to. The guy was into world war II stuff from what I understand and was not a real knowledgeable vintage VW guy. The other two convertibles are homemade from 1960's beetles.

[splitjunkie]

I see nothing in these pictures that looks any older than '50. The hub caps look like the really early flying swastika ones but those were reproduced in the 80s or 90's.
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[Gerrelt]

The Dutch license plate DL-83-75 does refer to a (imported in 1996) 1960's beetle. So the story of it being on a 1960 floorpan might be true.
See: https://www.rdw.nl/_layouts/Rdw.Internet.Portal/Ov...fault.aspx
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[sgmalt46]

who are those morons pushing it ? they don't even know what there looking at . they think they found the holy grail. it's a 50 or newer you dummies probably on a thing pan like the other guy said.
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[1960Turkis]

[MDKG]

Yep very disappointing but not surprising. It even was a news item last night on national TV here in The Netherlands http://www.kijk.nl/video/7vfvkRClAlrU
The guy talking is the new owner and museum owner. Car is already in the museum according to the clip and waiting for a full restoration. He is showing the number plates that gave it all away . Stupid media to believe this. Probably in a few years this is sold to some classic car investor who does not have a clue about ACVWs but because the whole story is on the internet it must be true... .

[disneyherbie]

It's unfortunate that things like this happen and then due to media coverage it becomes a story that's perpetuated for decades to come. There's nothing on that body that screams 1943 to me. In fact it looks like something that a war re-enactor probably built within the last 20 years and then just parked. Those hubcaps are clearly repros. Looks like a half assed attempt at a Type 82 that some people hyped up and "alerted" news outlets about. A shame and a disservice to those out there fortunate enough to own the real McCoys...