1967 Beetle Pan

[67ctbug]

I'm trying to install the pan and I think I'll have to get a new one. I want to plug weld, but my measurements are off so there is no way I can do that with these pans. Here's a picture

Also it doesn't close at the end

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'67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
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[kman]

To me it looks like you got a repair pan rather than a full pan.

[67ctbug]

No it's a full pan

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[chopped73beetle]

Where in ct are you? I'm doing pans and rocker on the passenger side this month. This will be my third time doing it on separate bugs. I bought the Wolfsburgwest pans and it fit like a glove , no trimming at all.

The way i do floors is remove old floor and test fit the new floor and then fit the body back on, Making sure the hardware fits up.

what floors did you get? Are you doing rockers too?

[67ctbug]

I'm in Manchester. I got floors from Johns Car Corner in VT. If by rockers you mean heater channels, then yes. I'm actually planning on getting Wolfsburg west pans as these ones are ruined now. The edge isn't large enough, they're rusting, and an unplanned rainstorm filled them with water for a few days. They are also like 21 or 22 gauge. It's good to hear the WW ons fit as I really don't like having to trim them as I also think I'll mess up .
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'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
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[67ctbug]

I've been messing with my floors and I'm a bit upset. They wouldn't sit flat so I removed the rear support and welded that to the floor. Well that went on crooked and it didn't work . This is becoming a real fiasco!
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'74 Westfalia
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'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
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[Digger89L]

from large photo you uploaded, it looks like there's room to trim some metal off on the back, inside edge (near the "transmission tunnel". That should allow the section by seat rail (as shown in your first photo) to fit closer to the tunnel ....
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[67ctbug]

Yes sir there was and I did, but there's still a 1/4 inch gap. I also had to shave some off the front on the passenger(this is where I tested cutting near the transmission) I cut too much up there and now it won't be able to get welded up front. So many problems I know!
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'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
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[67ctbug]

And it still won't sit flat
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'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
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[Digger89L]

Do these crappy pans also have crappy seat rails? My crappy pan's seat rails appear to be made out the same thin gauge metal as the pans ...whereas the OEM pan rails used MUCH heavier gauge metal. SO ...more work to cut the crappy rails off the crappy pans; cut the good rails off the rusty pans and weld them onto the crappy pans. More expensive, better fitting pans are looking more and more like a less expensive option in the long run ....
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[67ctbug]

[Digger89L]

That indeed is a bummer ...obviously the guys who make these pans don't have an engineer on staff!!
I wonder if the new, weld-on seat tracks (http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=113701421D) or (http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC-113-701-435) are made of proper-thickness steel? At least using these would eliminate one step in replacing crappy tracks ....
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"If you can't fix it with pop rivets, crazy glue and duct tape, or hold it together with zip ties, velcro or magnets, it REALLY is broken."

[67ctbug]

I'm going to get some WW pans and I heard they have good solid tracks. Is this not true?
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'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
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World Series Champions 2016

[67ctbug]

I'm posting pics of the old pans to see if I can get opinions on if I should use them. They predict it'll start snowing by the end of the month so I have to hurry. Is it okay if I use these?

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'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
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[Digger89L]

I think if you tack-weld them to the tunnel flange along the edge of the pan (where you don't have room to drill holes and do it that way) ....and do it on the top-side AND bottom-side, you should be okay. Maybe have a tack-weld every half-inch or so when you're done. Do the drill-holes-in-the-pan-and-weld-thru in the places where there is room to do that. Clean up the welding with a flap-disk on the grinder, and cover with seam-sealer ...good to go. IMO
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[67ctbug]

Alright one last problem, those supports for it don't sit flat on the pan.
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'67 Beetle L41
'74 Westfalia
'69 Plymouth "Adam-12"
'63 Ragtop
'73 914
'72 Dodge Wrecker
Go Cubs!
World Series Champions 2016