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captincanuck Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2014 Posts: 730 Location: The Great White North
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:31 am Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Thanks for the tips. I bought the only on Bus Depot listed. It was the "Premium Quality" on. It is to soft and easily distorted. Ordered two "OE Quality" ones from CIP1 today. _________________ 1979 Westfalia "FireFly" Subaru 2.2 with Subaru gears 5spd.
Build Thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=634777&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 |
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Hoody Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2007 Posts: 1948
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:53 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Until we publicly call these purveyors of Chinese Garbage out they will still sell these parts to the masses. It's a real shame that the market has gone in this direction. I am hopeful that things may go in the other direction now that the "cheap" VW owners are being weeded out. But I am not going to hold my breath. |
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sixer Samba Member
Joined: March 23, 2014 Posts: 88 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Does anyone have a source for these at the moment? Cip1, WW, bughaus, German Supply, all list the acceptable units as out of stock. My original looks to be in pretty rough shape and I have a road trip coming up in a few weeks... any leads appreciated. Thanks! _________________ 1976 Transporter, Stock 2.0L
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Hoody Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2007 Posts: 1948
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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ECS Tuning shows genuine VW for 44.00. If they say it's genuine then it is. |
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mikedjames Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2012 Posts: 2714 Location: Hamble, Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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I have read of people managing to drive with the coupler in pieces - the bolts and inserts manage to interfere with each enough to provide steering without the rubber ....
You still have two crude forks interlocking with each other,.
I am glad I was able to buy a VW marked coupler five years ago and fit it and it is still good.
The couplers punched out of sheets of fabric reinforced rubber remind me a bit of somebody getting creative with a square of rubber cut out of a large tire, or an inflatable ship's fender or conveyer belt .. _________________ Ancient vehicles and vessels
1974 VW T2 : Devon Eurovette camper with 1641 DP T1 engine, Progressive carb, full flow oil cooler, EDIS crank timed ignition.
Engine 1: 40k miles (rocker shaft clip fell off), Engine 2: 30k miles (rebuild, dropped valve). Engine 3: a JK Preservation Parts "new" engine, aluminium case: 26k miles: new top end.
Gearbox rebuild 2021 by Bears.
1979 Westerly GK24 24 foot racer/cruiser yacht Forethought of Gosport.
1973 wooden Pacer sailing dinghy |
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static Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2002 Posts: 1830 Location: The High Desert
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tristessa Samba Member
Joined: April 07, 2004 Posts: 3992 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Looking forward to the report on this -- mine is still OK-ish but needs replacement at some point. |
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HelmutofBuffalo Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2005 Posts: 554 Location: West Coast of New York
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Hoody wrote: |
Until we publicly call these purveyors of Chinese Garbage out they will still sell these parts to the masses. It's a real shame that the market has gone in this direction. I am hopeful that things may go in the other direction now that the "cheap" VW owners are being weeded out. But I am not going to hold my breath. |
I had the same problems described here with the Euromax coupler sold at BD, massive twisting under load and horn blowing or completely tearing wire off. Called them and explained the problem, after trying two of theirs (and solution...fiber bonded is much stiffer) yet it seams they are still selling the junk part until they run out . Thanks to WW for getting me the correct one ! _________________ 1979 Type I Convertible |
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BayCreamPuff Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2015 Posts: 769 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Out of curiosity I just ordered one from http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221534063811
Looks like it might be the right material. I'll let you know when it gets here. About $28 shipped total. _________________ Cream Puff
'79 CA Stock FI Deluxe Campmobile
Earl Grey
'87 GoWesty 2.2 Westfalia
Marsha Mellow
'00 Eurovan VR6 Full Camper |
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BayCreamPuff Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2015 Posts: 769 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:13 am Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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BayCreamPuff wrote: |
Out of curiosity I just ordered one from http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221534063811
Looks like it might be the right material. I'll let you know when it gets here. About $28 shipped total. |
It arrived. Not as solid as the ones I got from cip1 that are now out of stock.
This one bends a bit, not sure how it compares to some of the others that bend.
_________________ Cream Puff
'79 CA Stock FI Deluxe Campmobile
Earl Grey
'87 GoWesty 2.2 Westfalia
Marsha Mellow
'00 Eurovan VR6 Full Camper |
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Amskeptic Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2002 Posts: 8568 Location: All Across The Country
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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BayCreamPuff wrote: |
It arrived.
This one bends a bit, not sure how it compares to some of the others that bend.
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It is supposed to bend in the horizontal plane. It has to overcome any slight misalignment between the box and the steering shaft, and perhaps give a you an option of a little more steering (if you are still trying) after the hideous front impact.
This coupler is not really a high-demand moment in the realm of material science.
Colin _________________ www.itinerant-air-cooled.com |
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alman72 Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2014 Posts: 2573 Location: MICHIGAN
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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^ holy crap! it looks like all the plasticizer is bleeding out on that part. not sure what kind of lifetime you could expect with that. |
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Amskeptic Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2002 Posts: 8568 Location: All Across The Country
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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alman72 wrote: |
^ holy crap! it looks like all the plasticizer is bleeding out on that part. not sure what kind of lifetime you could expect with that. |
I think ? that may be glycerine.
Colin _________________ www.itinerant-air-cooled.com |
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static Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2002 Posts: 1830 Location: The High Desert
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Received my spiffy new steering coupler from Custom and Commercial in the UK.
Appears to be the real thing. I cannot flex it as shown in the photos above (though I will readily admit that I am a weakling)
Cost? A helluva lot.
24.99 UK pounds + 21.22 UK pounds postage = 46.21 or US$58.12
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static Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2002 Posts: 1830 Location: The High Desert
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Success! My bus drives again and now it doesn't scare the crap out of me in turns.
Driving down to The Kombi Haus before the repair was very scary; I was weaving all over the road. ("the road" being Hwy 50 through Sacramento during the morning commute).
The mechanic was quite astonished that I had managed to make it there without crashing. (yes, I know, I should have had it towed in)
Apparently, the steering coupler thingie was only held together with two bolts.
And yes, the shop approved of that (pictured above) "inobtanium" OEM part.
Thanks again to The Kombi Haus! My steering is like new! |
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BayCreamPuff Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2015 Posts: 769 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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Finally got around to replacing my coupler with the CIP1 I got a while back. It looked okay from below, but I could hear it flexing when turning the wheel. Once I took the cover off the top I could see it was torn pretty badly in 2 places. As expected it was the dreaded "PREMIUM QUALITY" coupler.
Used M8-1.25x40 Cap Nut Screws Grade 10.9. Partially threaded. HD washers on top, spring washers on the bottom with nylock nuts. Screws are a little long, but worked fine.
_________________ Cream Puff
'79 CA Stock FI Deluxe Campmobile
Earl Grey
'87 GoWesty 2.2 Westfalia
Marsha Mellow
'00 Eurovan VR6 Full Camper |
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vwwestyman Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2004 Posts: 5680 Location: Manhattan, Kansas, USA
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Santos Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2006 Posts: 12 Location: Bellflower, CA
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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By any chance, is there a company out there that might offer a polyurethane version of this coupler? In fact, would that have any advantage? I've previously driven lowered cars where a variety of bushings and spacers were swapped out with polyurethane rather than rubber replacements. _________________ I use to take the bus to school. |
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vwwestyman Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2004 Posts: 5680 Location: Manhattan, Kansas, USA
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lil-jinx Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2013 Posts: 1109 Location: New Brunswick,Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Steering Coupling Disc 211415417 (coupler) |
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If you were to put a metal strap with one slightly oversize hole over one of those bolt ends and secured it with slightly loose lock nuts,and the other end tight on the other bolt,the rubber flex joint would still flex and if it failed you would not loose control.use 2 straps one on each set of bolts. _________________ https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=620186
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=668799
1974 Bay Westfalia. she likes to be called Ethel.
1968 Dune Buggy
1974 parts bus
A smart man learns from his mistakes,a very smart man learns from other's mistakes.
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