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khalimadeath Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:07 pm Post subject: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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I noticed a leak on my master cylinder and started looking for a replacement. I noticed mine does not look like most typical master cylinders for a 1970. I was hoping you guys could help me figure out which one to buy. It has 2 hard lines 2 brake switches, and the reservoir on top.
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old DKP driver Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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Your picture is the 1970 211 611 021 T with the 2 switches
The 68- 69 year model is a 211 611 021 Q with 3 switches
You will have to shop around and Call since i see a replacement from
autohausaz only comes with one brake light switch port ?
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khalimadeath Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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old DKP driver wrote: |
Your picture is the 1970 211 611 021 T with the 2 switches
The 68- 69 year model is a 211 611 021 Q with 3 switches
You will have to shop around and Call since i see a replacement from
autohausaz only comes with one brake light switch port ?
check bus depot, bughaus and others |
Thanks for the info.. These are proving to be hard to find.. There is one here on Ebay..
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airschooled Air-Schooled
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:04 am Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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Wolfsburg West has all the early bay master cylinders. The T you need is only available in the highest quality version.
(Chris, interestingly enough, the Q 68-69 picture on WW shows a dual switch master. My '69 had a dual switch master installed some years ago too.) _________________ Learn how your vintage VW works. And why it doesn't!
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:06 am Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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khalimadeath Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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nice find, hwo do you feel about the "raybestos" brand? LOL _________________ The United States Constitution
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khalimadeath Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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asiab3 wrote: |
Wolfsburg West has all the early bay master cylinders. The T you need is only available in the highest quality version.
(Chris, interestingly enough, the Q 68-69 picture on WW shows a dual switch master. My '69 had a dual switch master installed some years ago too.) |
What "T" are you talking about? _________________ The United States Constitution
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khalimadeath Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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Also, should I replace the switches even if they are working fine? _________________ The United States Constitution
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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khalimadeath wrote: |
nice find, hwo do you feel about the "raybestos" brand? LOL |
I think it would be worth a call to them and ask who made it and where was made.
If your brake switches work, I wouldn't automatically replace them. They could be good German made ATE switches or another good brand. If they are Autozone cheap Chinese made specials, yea, they need to go in the trash can and then be replaced with German made ones. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1934811
Just saw this. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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cdennisg Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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khalimadeath wrote: |
nice find, hwo do you feel about the "raybestos" brand? LOL |
The last Raybestos MC I bought from RockAuto (for my old 70 camper) was in fact an ATE made in Germany but packed in a Raybestos box. For $27.
If you order this one, and it is an ATE, let us know. I'll by another one just for shelf stock. _________________ nothing |
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airschooled Air-Schooled
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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khalimadeath wrote: |
asiab3 wrote: |
Wolfsburg West has all the early bay master cylinders. The T you need is only available in the highest quality version.
(Chris, interestingly enough, the Q 68-69 picture on WW shows a dual switch master. My '69 had a dual switch master installed some years ago too.) |
What "T" are you talking about? |
See how DKP Driver posted the part numbers above, and they have letters after each? It's just a quick way of differentiation between two similar but different parts. If you look at the parts on Wolfsburg West's website, you'll see matching part numbers.
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khalimadeath Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:54 am Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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It only has one port for a brake light switch _________________ The United States Constitution
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khalimadeath Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:58 am Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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cdennisg wrote: |
khalimadeath wrote: |
nice find, hwo do you feel about the "raybestos" brand? LOL |
The last Raybestos MC I bought from RockAuto (for my old 70 camper) was in fact an ATE made in Germany but packed in a Raybestos box. For $27.
If you order this one, and it is an ATE, let us know. I'll by another one just for shelf stock. |
Unfortunately the last Raybestos was bought up before I could but it. I ended up getting the IAP brand. _________________ The United States Constitution
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khalimadeath Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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If anyone was in the market Jbugs has German made brake lines for a pretty good price. They have free shipping over $100 so in my case it made the decision pretty easy. Ill update again when I get my Master cylinder from Rockauto _________________ The United States Constitution
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khalimadeath Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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The IAP brand MC I got just had the vw part number on it. That was the only markings visible. Thoughts on if its a remaned OEM MC? _________________ The United States Constitution
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cdennisg Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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khalimadeath wrote: |
The IAP brand MC I got just had the vw part number on it. That was the only markings visible. Thoughts on if its a remaned OEM MC? |
Is there a country of manufacture on the packaging? I am guessing it is Brazil or Mexico. I think the only China versions are KMM. If it were German, it would likely say ATE on the side. _________________ nothing |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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khalimadeath wrote: |
The IAP brand MC I got just had the vw part number on it. That was the only markings visible. Thoughts on if its a remaned OEM MC? |
Pics? _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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khalimadeath Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: What Master cylinder do I have?? (1970 Bus) |
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I will post up some more pics when I get home tonight of the package and the MC _________________ The United States Constitution
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