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Wayne S. Johnson Samba Member
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: How to preserve speaker grill tabs |
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In my 1970 and 1971, the tabs of the grilles get slightly twisted to hold them in place (opposite of twisting them flat to remove them).
I think what you show in your photo are commonly called "hitch pins" even if they're small. Cotter pins are inserted, and then the ends are spread. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Bryan67 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: How to preserve speaker grill tabs |
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Just twist the tabs. That's the way they were always done. _________________ If you`re going to do something, do it right. |
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67rustavenger Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: How to preserve speaker grill tabs |
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If I'm not mistaken. The op is wanting to mount a trip computer on the speaker grill. When he shows the car, the idea is to remove the grill and replace it with a stock one. Then reinstall the trip computer for the drive home.
Untwisting and twisting the tabs over time will fatigue them causing them to fail. So he's looking for ideas to preserve the tabs.
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Wayne S. Johnson Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: How to preserve speaker grill tabs |
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67rustavenger wrote: |
If I'm not mistaken. The op is wanting to mount a trip computer on the speaker grill. When he shows the car, the idea is to remove the grill and replace it with a stock one. Then reinstall the trip computer for the drive home.
Untwisting and twisting the tabs over time will fatigue them causing them to fail. So he's looking for ideas to preserve the tabs.
Have a great day. |
Exactly!
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67rustavenger Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: How to preserve speaker grill tabs |
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Can you explain the markings on the speedo? Is that a superimposed image.
Have a great day.
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BotanyBandit Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: How to preserve speaker grill tabs |
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Sounds like a legit idea, I had to fabricate atleast 3 tabs for mine. Not fun. I will be trying this, maybe with wire though, thanks for the idea ! |
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: How to preserve speaker grill tabs |
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67rustavenger wrote: |
When he shows the car, the idea is to remove the grill and replace it with a stock one. Untwisting and twisting the tabs over time will fatigue them causing them to fail. So he's looking for ideas to preserve the tabs. |
I removed the grilles on my '70 to cut holes for my gauges. Then I re-installed them by twisting. 2 decades later, I removed those grilles by untwisting the tabs and gauges and installed them by twisting into my 1971 convertible, haven't broken any.
Isn't that enough times to R&R for just about anyone ? _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Wayne S. Johnson Samba Member
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Chad M Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: How to preserve speaker grill tabs |
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Annealing those tabs using a 12v battery (heating using the short to ground) prior to breakage saves the tabs and saves most of the surrounding paint. It's an old trick to save the ignition switch mounts (and the paint!) on a /5 BMW motorcycle. |
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splitjunkie Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: How to preserve speaker grill tabs |
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Cusser wrote: |
In my 1970 and 1971, the tabs of the grilles get slightly twisted to hold them in place (opposite of twisting them flat to remove them).
I think what you show in your photo are commonly called "hitch pins" even if they're small. Cotter pins are inserted, and then the ends are spread. |
The OP was using the correct term. They are known by both names.
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: How to preserve speaker grill tabs |
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splitjunkie wrote: |
The OP was using the correct term. They are known by both names. |
OK, so I learned something new. I need to also find out what a "hair pin" does with hair, some of us don't have a whole lot of that left !!!
And I'm appalled that someone wouldn't believe me, and chose to believe their own lyin' eyes instead !!!! _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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glutamodo The Android
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:11 am Post subject: Re: How to preserve speaker grill tabs |
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67rustavenger wrote: |
Can you explain the markings on the speedo? Is that a superimposed image.
Have a great day.
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Accessory decal, JC Whitney and others sold them. sometimes called "Eco-Tachs"
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67rustavenger Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:25 am Post subject: Re: How to preserve speaker grill tabs |
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glutamodo wrote: |
67rustavenger wrote: |
Can you explain the markings on the speedo? Is that a superimposed image.
Have a great day.
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Accessory decal, JC Whitney and others sold them. sometimes called "Eco-Tachs"
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Are those still available for .75c
Andy, you continue to amaze me with your scope of knowledge and the amount of printed material at your disposal. Thank you for keeping us all well educated.
Have a great weekend. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
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Wayne S. Johnson Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:26 am Post subject: Re: How to preserve speaker grill tabs |
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Tach-O-Meter Static Cling Decal
RECREATION FROM THE PAST VVWCA EXCLUSIVE
It took a bit of engineering, but we're pleased to offer in limited quantity, a recreation from 1957. This static cling decal attaches to the glass face of your speedometer. providing you with the shifting points and RPMs for each gear. This novelty item will be the talk of you all your friends.
HOW IT ORIGINATED
To be honest, we have no idea. All we know is that this accessory dates back to 1957. The Speed-O-Tach was nothing more than a decal that was applied to the front glass of your speedometer. A few years ago a VW friend of ours showed us the Speed-O-Tach as illustrated in the first photo in it's original condition. We photographed it from several perspectives and set the aside. A couple of years ago, another VW friend of our helped recreate the faceplate. We had decided that decals were inconvenient and difficult to reapply if you were off just a tad So, we explored the possibilities of creating a static cling application.
When applied, the Speed-O-Tach recommends shifting points for each gear at various speeds. Is it 100% accurate? You be the judge. Regardless, it's a great novelty now reproduced in limited quantities for the very first time since the 1950s.
Application is easy: clean off your speed-o-face and apply the static cling Speed-O-Tach. It can be removed at anytime you would like.
It's cool, it's different and it's inexpensive, and it will fit any 80-90 mile per hour flat-faced VW speedo (note: late model years may need some minor trimming). Does not fit Super Beetle speedometers.
Available for $11.95
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glutamodo The Android
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: How to preserve speaker grill tabs |
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Wayne S. Johnson wrote: |
Regardless, it's a great novelty now reproduced in limited quantities for the very first time since the 1950s.
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I'd change that to "since the 1960s" - at least. JC Whitney was still selling them in 1969.... (89 cents by then. My example above is from 1965) _________________ Andy T.
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Harris Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:24 am Post subject: Re: How to preserve speaker grill tabs |
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I switch out the tack and radio speaker grill from time to time. Drilled holes in the tabs and spring loaded them to the flasher bracket. Original grill out and tack (donor grill ) in as desired. No twisting of tabs that eventually break. Holds in nice and tight.
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Meiang Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:00 am Post subject: Re: How to preserve speaker grill tabs |
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The Zemco unit could be attached to the grill by magnets which have been stuck to it by strong double sided tape. The benefits of a metal dashboard.
As a side note, I once locked my Beetle with the key in the ignition. Fortunately I had not pushed the boot lid closed fully (i.e. locked) this allowed me to retrieve the key from the ignition via the speaker grill which I removed after twisting the tabs to release it. |
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Wayne S. Johnson Samba Member
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