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dr. no Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2004 Posts: 578 Location: Santa Fe
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:52 am Post subject: Looking for a source: 1.6 turbo diesel head |
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My 1.6TD hosted an unhappy meeting between a couple of valves and their respective cylinders, leading to bent stems...so I'm looking for a new, or at least reputably rebuilt head.
This is a JX engine: turbo and solid lifter. All I have found so far are NA heads--does anyone have a good line on one of these?
Thanks! _________________ Scott
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kernewek Samba Member
Joined: December 09, 2012 Posts: 44 Location: France/UK
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for a source: 1.6 turbo diesel head |
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Here in Europe new JX heads are available, manufactured by AMC in Spain. I don't know if they've suppliers Stateside but you could order one from the UK or Spain no problem.
https://www.vwheritage.com/shop/type25-bus/0681032...StartRow=1
HTH
Craig _________________ 1998 T4 2.5 TDI with Timber Technicians high top
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dr. no Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2004 Posts: 578 Location: Santa Fe
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:06 am Post subject: Re: Looking for a source: 1.6 turbo diesel head |
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Thanks! However, shipping eats up the budget quickly.
I have the old head at the shop to see if it's salvageable.
Really, no solid lifter turbo heads in North America? _________________ Scott
http://lungehphoto.com
'83.5 Westy s/p 1.6td JX and 4sp DK transplant--wonderful!
'86 MB 300GD
'06 MB Sprinter
'17 BMW X1
'89 Isuzu Trooper
PAST VWs:
'82 NA diesel Vanagon
'86 7-passenger Vanagon
'77 Bay
'71 Bay
'74 Things (2)
'69 Karmann Ghia (the only one I miss--in nice weather, anyway...)
'91 Fox |
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Gruppe B Samba Member
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rlevans Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:09 am Post subject: Re: Looking for a source: 1.6 turbo diesel head |
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I agree with the above, Quality German Auto Parts (VW motors) will have everything you need, they take pride in carrying all GERMAN parts and they are easy to deal with.
It would be a one stop shop: head, tensioner, belt, etc |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6316 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:20 am Post subject: Re: Looking for a source: 1.6 turbo diesel head |
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dr. no wrote: |
My 1.6TD hosted an unhappy meeting between a couple of valves and their respective cylinders, leading to bent stems...so I'm looking for a new, or at least reputably rebuilt head.
This is a JX engine: turbo and solid lifter. All I have found so far are NA heads--does anyone have a good line on one of these?
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Same cylinder head.
Intake valves are both 34mm on 1.6 NA and TD , and if they are smaller, you're not gonna feel the difference anyway
replacement parts are 068109601C for NA and TD (originally listed only for NA), you cannot find the 068109601D for TDanymore, it's becoming very hard though... so, same head. Keep your TD camshaft though just to be on the safe side (although they should be the same too: 068109101B). _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for a source: 1.6 turbo diesel head |
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I was reading on the BRICKWERK forum that the AMC heads are not recommended... can anyone confirm this? _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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MarkWard Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 17014 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for a source: 1.6 turbo diesel head |
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To back up what Alika said, I don't think there is a real difference in cylinder heads between the 1.6 NA and the 1.6 TD. The problem is there were not a lot of TD's sold in the US compared to the NA engines. So that accounts for why they are so rare now. When VW did upgrade the cylinder heads was with the Super Charged 4 cylinder Corrado. I believe it had a thicker deck and it may have been cast from a better material. I could also be completely wrong. _________________ ☮️ |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15129 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for a source: 1.6 turbo diesel head |
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the turbo diesel heads contained Sodium filled exhaust valves.
the NA heads didn't.
source some sodium exhaust valves for your replacement. but I've never really worried about it.. then again I was driving $500 rabbits when I was going thru Diesel heads _________________
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for a source: 1.6 turbo diesel head |
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MarkWard wrote: |
To back up what Alika said, I don't think there is a real difference in cylinder heads between the 1.6 NA and the 1.6 TD. The problem is there were not a lot of TD's sold in the US compared to the NA engines. So that accounts for why they are so rare now. When VW did upgrade the cylinder heads was with the Super Charged 4 cylinder Corrado. I believe it had a thicker deck and it may have been cast from a better material. I could also be completely wrong. |
Hi Mark... hehe... I'm already preparing for the worst
...anyway, I am not in the US or Canada so JX's are very plentiful over here in Central Europe. I am just wondering how good or bad are these aftermarket AMC brand new heads. _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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MarkWard Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:44 am Post subject: Re: Looking for a source: 1.6 turbo diesel head |
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Ed, there aren't many companies making new cylinder head castings for vws. My preference would be to start with a good genuine core, but if one was not available, I'd use an aftermarket casting. _________________ ☮️ |
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:52 am Post subject: Re: Looking for a source: 1.6 turbo diesel head |
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MarkWard wrote: |
Ed, there aren't many companies making new cylinder head castings for vws. My preference would be to start with a good genuine core, but if one was not available, I'd use an aftermarket casting. |
What's your opinion of this? http://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.de/zylinderkopf-46e5c8.html
Seems like original OEM housing (casting?) ...then I could use the existing "innards" from my current head, plus I have another old (cracked) head with lots of good parts... so I could build a really solid head quite easily and cheaply this way, no?
To be honest, even if my current head is not cracks, this would seem like good idea. _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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MarkWard Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for a source: 1.6 turbo diesel head |
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It does appear to be a genuine new casting. My german is limited though. You'd want to use new valves and you'd want to compare the springs free height. _________________ ☮️ |
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epowell Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2015 Posts: 4733 Location: Czech (mostly) Vancouver (sometimes)
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for a source: 1.6 turbo diesel head |
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MarkWard wrote: |
It does appear to be a genuine new casting. My german is limited though. You'd want to use new valves and you'd want to compare the springs free height. |
I think if I currently have a head issue or not, re-doing the head feels like a good idea to me anyway. It's not extremely expensive and obviously better to do at home rather than in the middle of Romania
This case looks even cheaper (since the Pound nose-dived) and also OEM https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/cylinder-head-bare-t3-1-6td-jx-genuine-vw.html
New valves... OK _________________ www.edwardpowell.com |
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