Bus 2.0 Liter rebuild and Conversion to Beetle

[raygreenwood]

[quote="chrisarnt"]

[williamM]

Ray- what is your "most go to" cam when building a T4 for a bus? (loaded camper--14"tires 205's// 002 trans from a 73 -)
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[raygreenwood]

[williamM]

Thanks for the reply- No longer a fan of Hydrolic lifters, I do however have a set of dual carbs and an FI So can build one of each, and If kent from Palm springs doesn't want the block I got him, or the core from the 73 is good I'll run one on the Eagal racing cam.

I see a clear answer in say 2 years

But thanks again- Bill
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[chrisarnt]

[quote="raygreenwood"]

[raygreenwood]

They go on the ends of the rocker arms in place of where the stock solid valve adjusting screws go.

They are a hardened flexible joint that is larger in diameter. They spread the load so you do not have wear issues to the ends of the valve stems or to the adjuster screws like you get on stock valve adjuster screws.

These also allow the force from the rocker arm valve adjusting screw to be more axially in line with the valve stem so if you set your geometry correctly...side loading and wear to the valve guides is greatly reduced.

I have not built a type 4 engine without them since my very first build.

http://www.aircooled.net/mcm_glossary/swivel-feet-adjusters-elephant-feet-adjusters/

An info thread http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7496597

...and yes....in the picture at the top of the page...the OP DID do it wrong in the fact that he did not clearance the rockers for the swivel feet.

Another thread with some pictures.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=380651

Make note of those members in these threads that HIGHLY recommend these parts...Jake Raby (type 4 guru extraordinaire) Colin...VW mechanic and Guru extraordinaire.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6555900

Here is a thread with some pictures of some other brands out there. I have used the Bugpack back in the day...and the "cup" or foot is not hard enough although the ball stud is. Mine also crapped out.

Also....quality is everything. You do NOT want the "half ball" style adjusters....and the Ford/Mazda genuine parts swivel feet are high enough quality but have more fitment issues on type 4.


There are several brands. Nothing out there beats the original Porsche adjusters in quality. Just bite the bullet and get them.

They are worth every penny for longevity and valve geometry...especially since it has gotten nearly impossible to find quality stock valve adjuster screws that are not either too soft or too hard.

YOU DO NOT WANT THESE
http://vwparts.aircooled.net/SCAT-Swivel-Ball-Style-Valve-Adjusters-20118-p/20118.htm

They work OK on type 1 but have serious issues on type 4.

THESE I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT SO I WOULD ASK AROUND

http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Elephant-s-Feet-Valve-Adjusters-8-p/adj-elephants-ft-8.htm

John sells great stuff and is honest. But...the cuff on the ball foot looks a little long for type 4. I may be wrong. If they are well hardened, machined and accurate...thats a great price.

These ...are the real thing...and yes the price is outrageous. I bought my current set when the price was about $230.

http://type4store.com/products/valvetrain/oem-911-adjusters.html

Just looking at fit, finish and materials compared to most of the types out there...the quality difference is obvious. They typically last about 200K miles.

If these are the genuine item....this is a good price http://www.partsgeek.com/gbproducts/WC/17012-01084...7433965052

And here...
http://www.germansupply.com/home/customer/product.php?productid=16779&cat=&page=1

Ray

[williamM]

X2 on the 1/2 ball type- The failures I've seen with them is they don't recover from a momentary failure (ie hiccup) in the valve train should you get a valve float or a momentary stuck valve- the flat on the ball can rotate and now your running on the round part of the ball. This will quickly mushroom your valve stem (pic to follow) The elephants feet will not have this problem.
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[chrisarnt]

Thanks. To both of you. Seriously

this is all new to me.

I am sourcing these.

But I pick up the motor (currently in pieces) in a few days and the seller says it has two sets of heads. Maybe one already has the elephant feet swivels.

Is this thing going to destroy my transmission?

[raygreenwood]

[chrisarnt]

OK. So, unless I something bad about the swivels from statesidetuning I'm going with 10mm at about $90 delivered.
And will use whatever rocker arms are in there.
http://www.statesidetuning.co.uk/newproducts.html

Back to the motor.
So, my buddy picked up the motor in milk crates the other day.
Frankly, my buddy is doing most of the work and I'm doing the research.

The pistons need new rings, but are 94mm and comparing to some pics online they appear to be Mahle. They have markings 98,98 Std on them.
Right now the question is about the rings. Pistons and Flywheel.

The heads are 4 bolt (bus, not porsche)
There is no flywheel or starter.

I'm going to post some photos and I'd appreciate any info you all could provide.

[chrisarnt]

I did just see an advert for a NOS 94mm set of mahle jugs for $200 that would be ready to go. unless the ones in the pic are some special dished ones that will make you coffee or something.

[williamM]

that was lucky-- New race engine right around the corner for you-- Have pics of the heads and particularly the combustion chambers- that seems to be the trouble spot for these.

The choice of pistons is endless- almost-

I just opened up a box of mystery parts and found these slipper skirt beauties- Not sure how they might fit into a bus- now that the cam question has been answered- here (thanks RAY)-- One piece at a time till you reach a consensus. [img]

and did you see the cam gear I found with the "OK we're going to die now " cam to oil pump marks-[/img]

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some days I get up and just sit and think. Some days I just sit.

opinion untempered by fact is ignorance.

Don't step in any!

[chrisarnt]

I need to get the correct flywheel.

Also, I'm looking at putting a set of dual h40s with empi manifolds on here.
Is there any reason not to?

[chrisarnt]

I'm getting ahead of myself but…

what are your thoughts on painting the tin to match the car?
I have a perfect match.
This is a pancake, so would it just make it more obvious that its not a doghouse look?

If I get this right, I will have cause to make this car pretty nice overall instead of "good'nuff"

I was kind of leaning toward the trumpet look exhausts.
Stingers look great, but they stick out at child eyeball gauging height.

[raygreenwood]

[52 split]

so anyone know where to buy just the alternator stand on its own.????