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Herr Motorspiele Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2007 Posts: 436
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:20 am Post subject: Touch Up Paint Options |
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Been busy working on the Syncro and want some input on different touch up paint options. I have some small chips/spots I planned to touch up with a small brush or pen and one or two spots (about quarter size) I might want to sand, prime, and spray. I've been reading up on the paintscratch.com website since that's popular on here, I like the spray can option, paint pens, etc. One stop shopping.
I also called the local VW dealer to ask about dealer supplied paint. A friend was able to purchase factory touch up paint there several years ago so I thought it was worth a shot. Unfortunately they said it was no longer available but recommended the local Finishmaster http://finishmaster.com/ I called and talked to those guys and everything sounded good. He said they use standox which is the new version of PPG international/glasurit so it would be mixed by the code. No scanner required, plus they sell preval spray systems if I wanted to cover a larger area. However no aerosol cans like paintscratch. They sell the touch up bottles (with brush) that hold ~2oz but would probably have to mix 8oz minimum and just fill the bottle for me and put the extra in a can. He said he could also add a little thinner if I planned to spray with a preval system. Anyone have experience with one of these? Everything sounded pretty good but I'm still undecided about how to proceed. Paintscratch seems to be popular but their exchange policies sound like a hassle if it's not right. One benefit of the local Finishmaster would be the face to face plus it sounds like they sell most (but not all) of the extras I would need.
Just looking for opinions/experience with Finishmaster since this adds another option to my project.
BTW my paint code is LH1V, Savannah Beige Metallic, so no matter what it sounds like it probably won't be 100% perfect. From what I've read gold and metallics are the two hardest to match and blend.
Just looking for something that looks better than it does now and is as close as possible without a full respray!
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rcook52459 Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2011 Posts: 492 Location: PORTLAND ORE
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:17 am Post subject: |
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check ouit paintscratch.com have ordered from them a few times and color always matched,even metallic's.just keep the can or spray gun mixed(kept shakin the can).i.ve have ordered the spray cans and always matched. _________________ 85 westy tiico conversion.auto trans triumph TR250 1980 Suzuki GS1000l |
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:20 am Post subject: |
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rcook52459 wrote: |
check ouit paintscratch.com have ordered from them a few times and color always matched,even metallic's.just keep the can or spray gun mixed(kept shakin the can).i.ve have ordered the spray cans and always matched. |
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Herr Motorspiele Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2007 Posts: 436
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Yeah paintscratch was my original plan as mentioned above. Just thought I'd put a feeler out for finishmaster since I've never used them before.
I actually went by there yesterday just to check it out (after I called them and posted here) and was impressed with the shop. Lots of commercial grade equipment and chemicals supplying the local shops and they seemed fairly busy. Despite that they were helpful and answered any questions I had which I appreciate. I went ahead and had them mix up a small bottle ~2oz of LH1V and picked up a couple other small items since they were much cheaper than FLAPS. Got home and did a side by side and it was way off. Much more gold than beige so I'm planning to go back today and see if they can tweek it. I'll probably place an order with paintscratch anyway but thought I'd try these guys since they're local and the small bottle was only about $4 so it was worth a shot.
I remembered I had a small bottle of touch up paint that came with the van from the PO. Finally found it and it looked to be maybe dealer supplied back in the day but half of the label is missing now. Fortunately after shaking it for 5-10 minutes I was able to pry the lid off and run a couple small tests and it's still almost an exact match. From sitting so long I think it's still not 100% mixed since I can see some white and red tint or base at the bottom of the jar. Would it help to run this under some hot water and keep shaking? I'm a little leary to stick something down in the jar to stir that stuff up, worried about contamination.
I might take this and the new mixture back to see if that would help them. Like I said I'll probably order from paintscratch but if I can get these guys to get it perfect it'll save some money and I can work on it while I'm off for the holidays without waiting on a shipment! |
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rcook52459 Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2011 Posts: 492 Location: PORTLAND ORE
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:55 am Post subject: |
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add a bit of laquer thinner to it.just a drop or 2 untill you think you got thin enough _________________ 85 westy tiico conversion.auto trans triumph TR250 1980 Suzuki GS1000l |
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Microbusdeluxe Samba Member
Joined: July 26, 2003 Posts: 977 Location: Bellingham, WA
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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I've used Paintmatch, results were fine. I've also used the Preval system, but not finishmaster, and it works well, too. So add that to your decision matrix! _________________ '69 Squareback RIP
'65 21 window deluxe sold before the price spike, damn it.
'70 rhd bay now a taxi in South Sudan
'81 Westy sold
'89 hightop Westy Joker syncro 16" now with Bostig! |
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wtcumby Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2010 Posts: 112 Location: PORTLAND
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:13 am Post subject: Orly Blue |
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Is there a good paint out there that can match Orly Blue besides Glasurit? I had a bad result once with another van when I let the shop "match" it and use their brand of paint. Are there any paint brands to stay away from? _________________ I've got the vanagon fever |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7892 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:34 am Post subject: Re: Orly Blue |
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wtcumby wrote: |
Is there a good paint out there that can match Orly Blue besides Glasurit? I had a bad result once with another van when I let the shop "match" it and use their brand of paint. Are there any paint brands to stay away from? |
I bought Orly Blue Metallic in bottle and spray can forms from www.automotivetouchup.com a few years ago; both are a perfect match. (One caveat with that site: If you've got a '90 Orly Blue, you'll have to use '91 for your search year.) _________________ ~Kamz
1986 Cabriolet: www.Cabby-Info.com
1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
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wtcumby Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2010 Posts: 112 Location: PORTLAND
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:22 am Post subject: |
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Thank you. Im doing the whole right side and front so I need a more than touch up. _________________ I've got the vanagon fever |
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rcook52459 Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2011 Posts: 492 Location: PORTLAND ORE
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 3:35 am Post subject: |
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since your in Portland ingustrial finishes can match it with DuPont,R&M probally any paint manufacture you want.foster auto parts paint department is industrial paint.there's one on mcgoughlin to. _________________ 85 westy tiico conversion.auto trans triumph TR250 1980 Suzuki GS1000l
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DeadSetMonkey Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2010 Posts: 532 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:13 am Post subject: |
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rcook52459 wrote: |
check ouit paintscratch.com have ordered from them a few times and color always matched,even metallic's.just keep the can or spray gun mixed(kept shakin the can).i.ve have ordered the spray cans and always matched. |
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seems to cost a bit more...
but shows up on the doorstep, ready to go...
no fuss no muss.. _________________ ----------------------------------------------------
'90 Syncro Westy 2.5Subi Turbo, BFGs 215/75/15 Rheins |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12103 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Has anyone here bought aftermarket Star Blue Metallic in spray cans or small quantity pint jars, etc.? I'd like to re-do my rocker panels without breaking the bank, but wonder about how well the color matches. I've noticed that some Honda and Chrysler minivans have a similar color scheme _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
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GreenieSMU Samba Member
Joined: August 31, 2016 Posts: 23 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: Touch Up Paint Options |
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Is the paint from paintscratch.com single stage like what came on my van originally in 1980? It was recommended to me to use a single stage touch up paint. Any advice is welcome. |
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rcook52459 Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2011 Posts: 492 Location: PORTLAND ORE
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Touch Up Paint Options |
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Yes it is _________________ 85 westy tiico conversion.auto trans triumph TR250 1980 Suzuki GS1000l |
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Franagon Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2009 Posts: 227 Location: Savannah, GA
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Touch Up Paint Options |
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I just tried some paintscratch paint in the rattle can and it seemed very thin and splotchy. Has anyone else experienced this? I just ordered a bunch more. I thought what I had would paint my luggage rack on my westy (2 cans, and I don't even plan on using that on the storage area of the luggage rack), but I feel I went through half a can and still not covering one little test area very well at all. I shook the can for like 5 minutes prior to and during coating. Any feedback would be helpful. Color seems to be pretty good, just seems real thin and going to take A LOT of paint and coats. Thanks all! _________________ 84 Westy Wolfsburg Manual - RG6 Bostig |
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86scotty Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2013 Posts: 223 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:47 am Post subject: Re: Touch Up Paint Options |
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I have no idea what the above mentioned options cost but what I've done on many vehicles is go to the local auto paint store and ask them to use their camera to match your paint. They have a specialized camera that blocks all light and will give them what they need to mix an exact match, no matter the fading. I just got 2 pints mixed, one for a repaired place on my pop top and one dark brown for touching up the body. Both pints mixed for around $35 and a pint is plenty to do a bigger repair if needed as well. I have enough left over to last forever.
I use touch up brushes or more often a Preval gun. The Preval stuff can be found on Amazon or Ebay cheap too.
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1998 Ford E350 4x4 camper build
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Franagon Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2009 Posts: 227 Location: Savannah, GA
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:58 am Post subject: Re: Touch Up Paint Options |
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Yeh, I am in about $200 just in 8 rattle cans of the paintscratch stuff. I will definitely go a different route at a later time, but I guess it allows me some touch up that I need to get coated before rust takes over too bad. Anyone use a good primer with the paintscratch rattle cans? And did that help with coverage? Thanks all,
Fran _________________ 84 Westy Wolfsburg Manual - RG6 Bostig |
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Merian Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Touch Up Paint Options |
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Wurth makes a good etching primer in a rattle can _________________ .... |
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