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Ferdinand53
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 Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:50 pm Post subject: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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I have a question about a crashbox. I bought a 1951 crashbox opened it up to see how everything was on the inside. I then put everything into a tub to get cleaned and inspected at a local machine shop. When I got there I noticed a piece that I did not take out of the crashbox when I dissembled it. I have included a pic of the piece I found. I can't find this part in my 1952 service manual. I am thinking it was in the tub before I put all my crashbox parts in there. I put the quarter in the pic to show the scale. Is it a part of the crashbox and if so where does it go because I can't find a place it would go.
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dlware1
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| Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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| Ferdinand53 wrote: |
| I have a question about a crashbox. I bought a 1951 crashbox opened it up to see how everything was on the inside. I then put everything into a tub to get cleaned and inspected at a local machine shop. When I got there I noticed a piece that I did not take out of the crashbox when I dissembled it. I have included a pic of the piece I found. I can't find this part in my 1952 service manual. I am thinking it was in the tub before I put all my crashbox parts in there. I put the quarter in the pic to show the scale. Is it a part of the crashbox and if so where does it go because I can't find a place it would go. |
It's a "lock plate - reverse sliding gear shaft", shown in the September 1950 Spare Parts List. It fits in a slot at the end of the reverse shaft, just before you put the nose cone back on the tranny, I believe. It can easily slip out of place if you're not careful. Hope this helps.
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Ferdinand53
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| Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:49 am Post subject: Re: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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| Hello and thank you, I found the area you were talking about and yes it does fit but what keeps it from falling out after I put everything back together? It seems like after the transaxel starts to vibrate it will fall out. Does it just sit up in there? |
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Abscate
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| Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:12 am Post subject: Re: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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Maybe one metric dorp of axle grease to hold it in place?
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Ferdinand53
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| Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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| It is in place but when the transmission is installed and the vehicle is running what stops it from falling out? |
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Ferdinand53
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| Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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Here is the only place I could see it fit. problem is it just sets in there and it seems like it is missing something.
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Bengt H
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| Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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Nosecone holds it in place  |
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Ferdinand53
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| Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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| That would sound logical but no, the nose cone doesn't even touch. It seems like it should have some kind of a clip. I can install the piece, reinstall the nose cone, tighten everything up, turn the axles and hit the nose cone with my fist a few times and then I hear the clink, open the nose cone and it is setting in the nose cone. Does someone have a pic of a 1951 crashbox of how it is installed? |
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virtanen
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VWKDF
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:10 am Post subject: Re: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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| Ferdinand53 wrote: |
Here is the only place I could see it fit. problem is it just sets in there and it seems like it is missing something.
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Can that bolt it is placed into be reinstalled turned around 180 degrees, then the nose cone would hold it in place between the bump outs for those bolts.
At work or I'd examine my Bentley's or very old Clymer's for clues. |
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Two Glove Boxes
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:09 am Post subject: Re: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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| Ferdinand53 wrote: |
Here is the only place I could see it fit. problem is it just sets in there and it seems like it is missing something.
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Can that bolt it is placed into be reinstalled turned around 180 degrees, then the nose cone would hold it in place between the bump outs for those bolts.
At work or I'd examine my Bentley's or very old Clymer's for clues. |
I am rebuilding mine right now and that is exactly right but the main shaft shouldn't be able to turn over if the reverse shaft is facing that way.
Just making sure this is a full Crashbox? |
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Ferdinand53
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:37 am Post subject: Re: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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| If you turn it 180 degrees the nose cone will not close. Yes it is a 1951 full crashbox |
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Ferdinand53
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:38 am Post subject: Re: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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| Can you send pics of your crashbox and the nose cone? |
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usedom31
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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From the Repair Manual 1951/52.
Hope it helps.
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Ferdinand53
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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Is this what your nose cone looks like
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Ferdinand53
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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| Sind Sie Deutscher? |
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Two Glove Boxes
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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virtanen
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Ferdinand53
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| Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: Split Window Beetle Crashbox |
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| That explains why my nose cone would not work. It looks almost identical except for the slot cut out for the lock plate. |
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