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sjbartley Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2016 Posts: 33 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:51 pm Post subject: 58 single cab trans swap |
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Starting a new project need some info. Planning on swapping in a 69 912 motor which seems pretty simple, but the owner also would like a type 761 tranny from a 356. Has anyone done this swap? How was the front tranny mount done? Looks like the spring plates need to be changed or modified also since we are not using reduction boxes. |
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easy e Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2008 Posts: 3931 Location: 1 hr north of Santa Barbara
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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Sounds like they'd be better off selling the Porsche stuff... to someone with a Porsche.... and buying VW stuff for their VW.
Engine... dunno. But there's some tilted discussion in the link below.
Looks like that same trans question died on the vine, here: 356 in a 65 bus _________________ aka: Evan
Spreadsheet for Bus RPM, based on gearing & tire size (Excel format)
Searchable, click-navigable 1958 Bus Parts List |
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sjbartley Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2016 Posts: 33 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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Thanks E. Owner thinks its a great idea and has the porsche stuff and wants to use it. Read the posts, some interesting, some not. The motor swap is easy, but the porsche trans has a different front mount. Looking for ideas on that. |
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Clara Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2003 Posts: 12401
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typ914 Samba Member
Joined: October 19, 2012 Posts: 231 Location: Atlanta, Ga
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:42 am Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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Try doing your research in reverse. At one time I was a 356er and there is quite a bit of information on how to put a VW trans in a porsche. Check the samba 356 forms and also the 356 registry forums. |
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sjbartley Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2016 Posts: 33 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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So with a little cutting and grinding we have the 356 trans and motor in. Cut off the mounts and reshape the little "foot" at the bottom of the trans. Shift rod lines up with coupler. Now to work on trans mount making some brackets to attach to VW mount.
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joe56vw Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2004 Posts: 3202 Location: Olympia wa
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sjbartley Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2016 Posts: 33 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:10 am Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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The mounting ears interfered with the frame horns. |
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sjbartley Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2016 Posts: 33 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:30 am Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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I am working on something similar for a trans mount. Trying to use VW rear brakes and straight axles that are on the 356 trans. Spring plates have to be modified. |
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khalimadeath Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2014 Posts: 768 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:45 am Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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I am in Reno too. Is this build staying in town? _________________ The United States Constitution
(c) 1787. All Rights Reserved
1970 Bus Westfalia
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sjbartley Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2016 Posts: 33 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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Owner lives in Incline Village. Will be changing colors back to factory red/black. |
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7050 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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sjbartley wrote: |
Owner lives in Incline Village. Will be changing colors back to factory red/black. |
a single cab in factory red and black? i doubt it. Factory red perhaps? _________________ regards
Uli
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'53 3-Fold Oval, L35 Metallic Blue, looking for a narrow hatch panel |
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sjbartley Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2016 Posts: 33 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:38 am Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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Sorry meant to say that is his choice for paint scheme. Vin #272374 is 1958 single cab mfg July 1957 left the factory in Dove Blue. |
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brian richardson Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2010 Posts: 3 Location: az
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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looks good. this truck is #282911 and has a '57 engine. still running the split case trans which made the install much easier. bet he'll really enjoy driving it!
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sjbartley Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2016 Posts: 33 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:37 am Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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I love that sebring exhaust. I plan on a Bursch street exhaust. Just finished getting the sheetmetal and engine seal to fit. |
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sjbartley Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2016 Posts: 33 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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Finishing up nicely. A blast to drive lots of good power. Front end got lowered spindles with Wilwood disc brakes and kyb shocks. Added some avus style height adjusters to give some more adjustability. Rear got adjustable lowered spring plates and kybs. Used the 356 axles and the stock drum brakes that got 36mm machined off because of the shorter axle length. Shift pattern was fixed by welding up the shift plate and making the ramp rise the opposite direction. Still sorting out ride height and we have some 58 speedster wheels and tires to try.
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sjbartley Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2016 Posts: 33 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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Motor is a 912 based 1720 with Solex PII 40 carbs. Heads have been worked a little and using a Dansk sport muffler. Also using a Precision Matters full flow oil system. |
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sjbartley Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2016 Posts: 33 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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Some new shots. Cant wait to try on the speedster wheels
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7050 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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pretty cool build. but the seat upholstery could use a better material, one from the period perhaps? _________________ regards
Uli
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'53 3-Fold Oval, L35 Metallic Blue, looking for a narrow hatch panel |
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sjbartley Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2016 Posts: 33 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: 58 single cab trans swap |
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Agreed and that's something for the future. Right now just driving around doing some sorting out. Lots of fun and smiles for sure. |
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