River Bank Survivor (59 Single Cab)

[EverettB]

Yes, that is super cool
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[SamboSamba22]

Today was a measure of determination.
The color painting Dove Blue to blend the pillar sections; nothing I couldn't handle. As that dried, the trickster was removing and installing door/window seals. Geez, it's a shame there is another door. I'm going to need some coffee in the morning.
Here are the Brazilian seals used on the windscreens.

Primered Up!

Luckil, and thankfully, the windshield glass was much easier to install.

Now the big question, and I'm torn, should I leave the patina or spray over the truck with the color match???

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Oct. ’67 Double Cab (’68 Crew Cab)
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March '69 Delivery (Panel Bus)
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[ryans65]

patina

[Spike0180]

Spray. It's more protective.
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[peecee69]

I'd say a mix. Spray/blend where there's rust issues, leave most of it alone. Unless you have a problem with high humidity or other environmental issues that would cause deterioration, I wouldn't be too concerned with it getting worse.

[SamboSamba22]

[SamboSamba22]

Starting to look at brake options.
Single circuit is old and outdated. Also very inexpensive and basic installation due to it being the original layout I have currently to document on the truck.
Dual circuit is safer, a little bit stronger stopping power, and of course exceedingly more for parts compared to the prior setup.
Since I am beginning with essentially a blank canvas as much of my components are long gone rusty and just sketchy, which route should I do?
With so much information and knowledge from a lot of intelligent, tried and true people on here, information regarding the dual setup is very abundant, and unfortunately not so clear.
From this link, for setting up a dual circuit brake system, these are the items I need?
http://type2.com/library/brakes/dualmas.htm
Is this just for dual brakes with discs or drums, or either?
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Oct. ’67 Double Cab (’68 Crew Cab)
[url=http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-44412.png]Click to view image[/URL]
March '69 Delivery (Panel Bus)
[url=http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-44414.png]Click to view image[/URL]

[peecee69]

IMO, a dual circuit setup is not much more than a spacer and a more commonly available (and sometimes cheaper) bay window MC. With the spacer, there's no need to modify the pushrod, and you don't need a booster (although that can be done and is where it could get expensive).

[Eric&Barb]

Not that many more parts or that complicated. Sure the dual MC is more expensive, but your Bus, you and your passengers are worth it. The 1967 dual MC is much more expensive than the 1971-79 MC. The latter MC does take a little more leg pressure than the earlier one. If you have legs of a 90 year old you will possibly need a servo either way.

http://type2.com/library/brakes/dualmas.htm

1. You do not have to shorten the push rod, but then you need a spacer. With spacer you might not be able to install the pedal splash pan without having to cut the pan to clear the MC

2. If you want to not bother with a spacer, then you need to make a new push rod out of all thread or a bolt with head cut off. If you go with this, make sure if the reservoir is going to hit the frame on the front. Have slightly melted the front of the rabbit reservoir to clear the frame there. 1967 Bus reservoir should just clear there.
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[SamboSamba22]

So let's say I wanted to be able to stop myself from going 55mph, with a payload of say half a ton, that's the real reason I am looking doing dual circuit brakes.
Has anyone done so in their own thread, added dual circuit brakes, so I can be lazy and ask questions?
I am intrigued and curious about the VW Fox M/C that Glideking is using, and said to be working very well.
I see the kits available online from various vendors, but they seem like overkill for my situation, I don't think it's necessary for my project to have drilled rotors and painted calipers.
I'm curious if anyone has any thoughts on leaving drum all around (to improve brakes on a budget) or to replace the front with discs, whereas the money begins to disappear. Thoughts? With discs on the nose, is it necessary to have a proportioning valve to the rear drums?
I am not really concerned with adding a booster, I mean I have one in the Westy, but with 4k pounds, I think it's justified, yet with the single, my main intentions is to use it just around town, and would like to appropriate funds elsewhere than sporting brakes over just having them functioning safe and effectively.
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The Bus Barn Ltd. Co.

Oct. ’67 Double Cab (’68 Crew Cab)
[url=http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-44412.png]Click to view image[/URL]
March '69 Delivery (Panel Bus)
[url=http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-44414.png]Click to view image[/URL]

[Eric&Barb]

[mandraks]

always had stock drums on my buses, always felt they were adequate
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[peecee69]

Dual circuit is for reliability, not additional power (for the most part). Add discs for additional stopping power (little brake fade compared to drums), but drums work fine. Add a booster for additional ease of pedal push. Glideking may want to comment on why the Fox setup, but I don't think it's necessary.

[cdennisg]

Dual circuit M/C is for safety and will not add more braking capability. If you blow a brake line or wheel cylinder, you will still have brakes with a dual circuit system.

Disc brakes do not fade nearly as soon as drums (long down hill is really the only issue, as has been mentioned) Discs are way better when wet. Depending on the disc brake setup it can either be about the same power as the stock drums, or it can be so powerful as to put you through the windshield. Depends on how much you want to spend.
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[SamboSamba22]

With all of this focus to the nose, I thought it to be appropriate to try and spread a little love. So without much need for analyze, I picked up assortment of goodies, all VW original paint items, just a shade or two different than my own

I love using my Volkswagen to pick/haul more vw stuff, I think that's called addiction.
Mango green rear crank apron.
Unknown red deck lid
Bullet turn signal (complete minus one cover)
Side gate latches
Dove blue air box cover (lack of correct term)

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The Bus Barn Ltd. Co.

Oct. ’67 Double Cab (’68 Crew Cab)
[url=http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-44412.png]Click to view image[/URL]
March '69 Delivery (Panel Bus)
[url=http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-44414.png]Click to view image[/URL]

[SamboSamba22]

Test fitting the deck lid to the mounted rear apron

What the hell is body work, you use a hammer, right?!

The right rear corner is very rough, but I plan on hammering it out a bit more, and welding in a lower (rounded portion) corner section to the carnage. I'd like to keep the story to tell, for now at least.
Out with the old, though I love the patina, it was crunchy, and weak

I think it'll do the job, is this apron mango or sand green?

It almost looks like a dirty Klassicfab piece.
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The Bus Barn Ltd. Co.

Oct. ’67 Double Cab (’68 Crew Cab)
[url=http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-44412.png]Click to view image[/URL]
March '69 Delivery (Panel Bus)
[url=http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-44414.png]Click to view image[/URL]

[cdennisg]

Looks mango to me.
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[glideking]

Everything about this makes me happy!
Kurt
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[SamboSamba22]

Ha! It sure makes it easier working on it, and I actually cleaned it up prior to doing some work on it this evening.
I have a bad habit of piling things on it, it tends to have a mass of crap on it constantly, too convenient with a lack of shelf space in the garage.
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The Bus Barn Ltd. Co.

Oct. ’67 Double Cab (’68 Crew Cab)
[url=http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-44412.png]Click to view image[/URL]
March '69 Delivery (Panel Bus)
[url=http://www.vw-mplate.com/mplate-44414.png]Click to view image[/URL]