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chrisjbrown147147 Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2017 Posts: 26 Location: Tx
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:56 pm Post subject: Do not know what Fuel Pump to Buy. |
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I have A Air Cooled VW Superbug engine that had a generator on it but has been converted to alternator. Question is What pump Do i Buy? Would I still Get the generator pump? And should I also get A new Rod too? If you could link the exact pump i need (generic) Thanks !
Pics of the Engine below with the Engine Number
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24671 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Do not know what Fuel Pump to Buy. |
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You have a alternator type now that could have either length of push rod. Would only replace the push rod if worn down too much or you would like to go to the earlier rebuildable fuel pump. Measure the push rod and sort it out. Some of the new pumps put out way too much fuel pressure.
Do a search for "Fuel Pump" of the forums and start reading up.
Do beware of pumps with without the C-clip on the pivot rod. They have a nasty habit of leaving you stranded when the pivot works its way out the side of the pump.
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Cali_Army_Guy Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2015 Posts: 2094 Location: Stockton, CA
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:14 pm Post subject: Re: Do not know what Fuel Pump to Buy. |
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I love the ingenuity of people. This is the result of someone with more time than money. And I don't mean that in a rude way. Instead of buying a new generator they most likely used an alternator and some stuff they had laying around the farm and make that work. Can't call it stupid if it works. Kudos to that person. _________________ 2015 VW Passat Wolfsburg Edition
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grandpa pete Samba Member
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chrisjbrown147147 Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2017 Posts: 26 Location: Tx
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Do not know what Fuel Pump to Buy. |
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Thanks Cali_Army_Guy .Thats exactly what happened, had no money but had the knowledge to make it work. I took off the pump, the rod is just over 3 7/8 inches. Would it be a generator or alternator?
Annndd I broke the insulator and its stuck; broken off in the block. It isnt loose in the block. |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24671 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Do not know what Fuel Pump to Buy. |
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Here is a must buy manual for working on your VW powered trike:
https://www.amazon.com/Volkswagen-Beetle-Karmann-O...vice+guide
You can find it for a lot less in good used in a local book store or on line. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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chrisjbrown147147 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Do not know what Fuel Pump to Buy. |
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My engine came from a 71-73 bug. could i still use this book as a reference? Thanks for the information. |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: Do not know what Fuel Pump to Buy. |
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If your engine has single port heads the blue cover Official Service Manual is great for what you have.
If the engine has dual port heads, the later orange cover Official Service Manual will be a better one, but it does have a section on the FI system which is not needed for your carbed engine.
https://www.amazon.com/Volkswagen-Official-Service...vice+guide _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31271 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Do not know what Fuel Pump to Buy. |
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chrisjbrown147147 wrote: |
I took off the pump, the rod is just over 3 7/8 inches. Would it be a generator or alternator? |
That would be the shorter 100mm push rod, so you need a slanted alternator-type fuel pump to go with that push rod.
chrisjbrown147147 wrote: |
Annndd I broke the insulator and its stuck; broken off in the block. It isnt loose in the block. |
Buy a new fuel pump stand, under $5. There are ways like using a screw or a tap to free up the broken part of that plastic stand to get it out of the case. Do a Search on this site. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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chrisjbrown147147 Samba Member
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: Do not know what Fuel Pump to Buy. |
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That will work fine since it has all the parts and will work with either gen or alt. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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chrisjbrown147147 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: Do not know what Fuel Pump to Buy. |
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Thank you all for the help. I have purchased it and will let you all know if it is up and running again. After that, Its on to sanding, painting, new windshield, tires,side Mirrors, And then it will be nice, and street legal again. I'm thinking about spraying it black; I started spraying it yellow again, but am considering darker colors. |
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calvinater Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:16 am Post subject: Re: Do not know what Fuel Pump to Buy. |
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Looks like the suicide seat needs a lap belt _________________ "Albatross"! |
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thomas. Samba Member
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TinCanFab Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Do not know what Fuel Pump to Buy. |
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There's a first time for everything. I can't say I've ever seen a dual carb hex bar on a single carb setup before. Crazy! I noticed in your other posts that you are new to cars, I also recommend a good manual because this contraption has all kinds of freestyle things going on. But, the creativity is hard to appreciate when it's confusing a noob _________________ Check out my truck brought back from the dead... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=420762&highlight=sprayed+blood
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Cali_Army_Guy Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: Do not know what Fuel Pump to Buy. |
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roachdub58 wrote: |
There's a first time for everything. I can't say I've ever seen a dual carb hex bar on a single carb setup before. Crazy! I noticed in your other posts that you are new to cars, I also recommend a good manual because this contraption has all kinds of freestyle things going on. But, the creativity is hard to appreciate when it's confusing a noob |
I noticed that too. Couldn't use the factory throttle cable location cause of how far to the right of the chassis the current cable is routed. Also has a trailer hitch on the back that's way to high for any bumper pull trailer. So mini gooseneck trailer? I'd love to see this thing in person. It's so cool.
OP once you get it running bring it to California and give me a ride haha
Edit: How is the shifter connected? That's way off to the right as well. Can you post a walk around video of this showing all the custom fabrication on it? I'm intrigued by all this. _________________ 2015 VW Passat Wolfsburg Edition
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gt1953 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Do not know what Fuel Pump to Buy. |
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For all of you that have the type pump without clips, well this is what I did. Put it on both sides of the pump.
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Keith Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:47 am Post subject: Re: Do not know what Fuel Pump to Buy. |
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Brilliant! Simple, yet effective! _________________ Formerly known in the forums as "OVALTEEN"
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: Do not know what Fuel Pump to Buy. |
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After seeing gt1953's preventive measure, I did similar to the Brazilian fuel pump in my 1971 which does not have pivot rod clips - but has never drifted out either. The extra holes are not used for anything.
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