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62ItalianRagtop Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2007 Posts: 1354 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:14 am Post subject: HELP : strange problem with accelerator pivot |
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Hi, toda I changed my accelerator pivot with a new WolfsburgWest one because my accelerator cable always slipped off.
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=311721509A
Now I have a strange problem, the latch toward the rear of the car of the pivot does not work and the piovt falls back.
Why ? It seems like my previous one
IMPORTANT : this is a 62 accelerator pedal assembly _________________ LOOKING FOR 62 ENGINE WITH NUMBER FROM 6.904.xxx TO 6.915.xxx
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31380 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: HELP : strange problem with accelerator pivot |
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What exactly are you calling the "accelerator pivot" ?
Is the arm (with the hole for the cable end) perfectly straight front to rear ?
Have you been installing the cable end correctly?
Looks like the little pedal spring is also not positioned correctly. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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62ItalianRagtop Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2007 Posts: 1354 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: HELP : strange problem with accelerator pivot |
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Now the problem is not the cable but the accelerator pivot
This lock / limit
does NOT work anymore and the pivot falls back like in this image
Yes the black spring is not fixed correctly.
Thank you _________________ LOOKING FOR 62 ENGINE WITH NUMBER FROM 6.904.xxx TO 6.915.xxx
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rockerarm Samba Member
Joined: December 16, 2009 Posts: 3552 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: HELP : strange problem with accelerator pivot |
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Hi. Can you compare the new WW part with the old part? Seems to me per your description and pic that the new part lacks sufficient metal that prevents the new part from resting on the pedal assy housing, and it then falls rearward.
Hope this helps, Bill. |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31380 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: HELP : strange problem with accelerator pivot |
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You've got the forward bolt installed.
I'd loosen or remove that forward bolt and rotate the "accelerator pivot bar" forward and keep it there as you install the two horizontal pedal assembly bolts to the hump. Yes, you'll need to loosen the accelerator cable at the rear/engine compartment. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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templeofspeed Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2007 Posts: 279 Location: Central midwest
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Cusser Samba Member
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62ItalianRagtop Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2007 Posts: 1354 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:18 am Post subject: Re: HELP : strange problem with accelerator pivot |
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Ys I have a 62 pedal assembly with post 66 smal roler lever.
Here used vs new WW part, they seems different
I think that used one was bent and adapted ....
Now I reinstalled all the original 62 pedal assembly parts ....
I have dual carbs and someone told me that 66-71 pedal assembly is better but I prefer to have all original parts in my pedal assembly.
If I want to install a full 66-71 pedal assembly in my 62 I have to modify the frame or to make some holes ? _________________ LOOKING FOR 62 ENGINE WITH NUMBER FROM 6.904.xxx TO 6.915.xxx
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templeofspeed Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:31 am Post subject: Re: HELP : strange problem with accelerator pivot |
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62ItalianRagtop wrote: |
If I want to install a full 66-71 pedal assembly in my 62 I have to modify the frame or to make some holes ? |
You will need to remove the pedal hinge from the floor. _________________ Is your suspension broken? |
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62ItalianRagtop Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2007 Posts: 1354 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:42 am Post subject: Re: HELP : strange problem with accelerator pivot |
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Uhhh nooo, anyone has dual carbs and og pre 66 pedal assembly ? _________________ LOOKING FOR 62 ENGINE WITH NUMBER FROM 6.904.xxx TO 6.915.xxx
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8700 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:05 am Post subject: Re: HELP : strange problem with accelerator pivot |
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The old one is bent maybe from being stood on, or just used a lot. If you bend it back to the original shape it should work just fine. _________________ Brian
'69 Dune Buggy
'69 Beetle Convertible
'70 Beetle |
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thomas. Samba Member
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31380 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:06 am Post subject: Re: HELP : strange problem with accelerator pivot |
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62ItalianRagtop wrote: |
Yes I have a 62 pedal assembly with post 66 smal roler lever.
Here used vs new WW part, they seems different
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The one on the right is severely bent. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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rockerarm Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:06 am Post subject: Re: HELP : strange problem with accelerator pivot |
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Good eye on that, but WW has it backwards in the photo. |
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62ItalianRagtop Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2007 Posts: 1354 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: HELP : strange problem with accelerator pivot |
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Q-Dog wrote: |
The old one is bent maybe from being stood on, or just used a lot. If you bend it back to the original shape it should work just fine. |
The problem of the old one is that the hole where accelerator cable fix is damaged... bigger than it should be _________________ LOOKING FOR 62 ENGINE WITH NUMBER FROM 6.904.xxx TO 6.915.xxx
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62ItalianRagtop Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: HELP : strange problem with accelerator pivot |
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Perhaps in the 66-71 pedal assembly .. I have a 62 pedal assembly _________________ LOOKING FOR 62 ENGINE WITH NUMBER FROM 6.904.xxx TO 6.915.xxx
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rockerarm Samba Member
Joined: December 16, 2009 Posts: 3552 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: HELP : strange problem with accelerator pivot |
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Hi.
Templeofspeed nailed it when he stated you need to remove the old throttle pedal from the floor. Good eye with viewing the early pedal with the later throttle lever piece.
62ragtop, you have multiple issues here.
1- You appear to be trying to adapt the early gas pedal to the later lever.
2- The lever appears to have fallen rearward too far.
I ran a '70's pedal cluster in a daily driver '58 for over 20 years and had zero issues like you are going thru here. Iran this with the 1200, the 1600, and with engines with dual carbs.
As previously mentioned the WW picture is backwards. |
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