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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:09 pm Post subject: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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After dragging an early Bus out from under its favorite tree where it sat for the last 25-30 years I've decided to just do the basic things to get it road worthy again, then perhaps start replacing the necessary panels as it's being enjoyed as a beater.
Here's the crusty pig as found.
Unfortunately, the gentleman's grandson enjoyed chucking rocks at it.
Swapping some tires onto it to get it rolling again.
Dragging it out.
& dragging it to its new home.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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One of the first projects was to replace the windshield gasket, so I pulled it out & carefully saved the original trim.
Here's the new gasket.
After pulling the windshield I found the expected rust in the frame but I just cleaned up what I could, treated it with Extend & painted over that.
Then I transferred the original trim into the new gasket & reinstalled the windshield.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:01 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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The next thing that I dealt with is replacing the drivers door glass, what a PITA! I really wish that I had known that the window regulator, scrapers & vent window gaskets all had to be removed just to get the glass in the door, I would have sourced them before tearing it all apart. While still not water tight, it's a start towards keeping the birds & cats out.
Anyone want a vintage bird's nest?
I wish I could get potato chips as crunchy as that headliner is. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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So then I pulled the engine out.
So the could get to the fuel tank.
Great news, gas tank still holds fuel. Bad news, it still has fuel in it.
OOH & look, correct acorn nutted '68 only transmission.
Out with the tank.
Aside from being dirty as hell, it's not too bad.
Neither is the inside of the tank.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it.
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22456 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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I can smell that old gas from here....um sorry I mean turpentine! Nice find brother. Keep us posted. _________________
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Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
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otiswesty Samba Member
Joined: November 21, 2006 Posts: 1730 Location: Portland
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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That tank is pretty much spic and span, obviously ethanol free gas.
Nice find _________________ 1978 Sage Green P22 Westfalia
1989 T3 Syncro Single cab
Just a regular guy |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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Thanks notchboy & otiswesty. Yes it was pretty rank, I drained it out, flushed it with water to ensure that the tank didn't leak a the seams, dumped that, gave it a good cleaning with some Draino, flushed that, cleaned it again with some muriatic acid, flushed it a few more times with water & hooked up the shop vac to dry it out.
Then gave it a couple treatments with Ospho. After that dried, I sloshed some ATF in it.
After the insides were treated, I purtied it up.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:00 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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I spent some time cutting the old engine seal & removing it.
And then sliding the new ones in place.
Then cleaned the engine bay a bit.
Then finally wrestled the tank back in place.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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smalltime_hillbilly Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2017 Posts: 73 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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Great find! interested to know more about this 68' only trans.. whats different about it? and how do you know its a 1 year only deal other than the acorn nuts _________________ 1968 RHD Bus.
1962 RHD Beetle.
Drinking Problem. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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cdennisg shared this with me:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
Apparently the ratios and possibly the final drive are different & very well matched for the low power of the original single port engine. I've also read that the gears are different & not as strong as the later transmissions. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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Several of the one year only parts that I have already noticed/encountered are:
Transmission
Rear view mirror (but this might also be for '69)
Parking brake cables
Rear brake drums/backing plates
Door handles
Center bench seat
Paint color
Black upholstery
Brake master cylinder
Lack of firewall between engine/fuel tank
Sliding door hardware _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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Dana Champion Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2012 Posts: 633 Location: Ventura County, CA
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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Loving the Arizona Yellow ! Looks like a nice score ! My older brother bought one in '74. It had been repainted inside and out burnt orange and yellow. Finding one someday would be cool.
Peace, Dana
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stryker1 Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2015 Posts: 1 Location: dfw
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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I have the same bus as this one. Mine is a built date of feb 15 1968. Arizona yellow also but only og color left is inside and engine bay. Needs to be painted, in primer now but running. Will be following your thread. Looking good |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:47 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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Thanks Dana, you stand a better chance to find one (and a better one) in your neck of the woods, good luck!
stryker1, I'm kinda flattered that your first post is here, thanks! You should start a thread, I'm sure that we'd all love to see your Bus, I know I would.
The steering had 1/4 turn of play at the steering wheel before there was any movement at the wheels, I inspected everything & found that 95% of the slop was at the center tie rod/front tierod/drag link (depending on who you talk to.).
I replaced that & the steering only has about 1/2" of play now.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:10 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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I had my buddy dismount the old tires so I could send the wheels to be sand blasted.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:41 am Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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I got the wheels back.
They were literally SAND blasted (silicosis anyone?).
Found a few bent lips & coerced them out with a drift & a BFH
Then I slathered them down with some Ospho.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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While the engine is out, the axles are much easier to access & can be removed without dropping the dirt & grime on yourself, so I took advantage of this & removed them to rebuild the CVs & put new boots on.
I started by digging the caked on grime out of the bolts.
With the axle out, suddenly the brake hose is much easier to get at also.
After removing the axle, I discovered something that I've never seen in all the years that I've been working on these.
My CV joints have hubcaps.
After removing the cap, I removed the CV & then marked the inner race, the cage, and the outer race.
Then cleaned & reassembled the CV.
Then reinstalled it on the axle with a new boot & grease.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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Spent a little more time with the crusty pig today, I replaced the drivers side rear brake hose before installing the rebuilt axle.
After breaking the brake hose looseI noticed that the flare nut was seized to the line so I cut the hose, removed it & heated up the flare nut & worked it loose.
Then I used one flare wrench to hold the t-union while I loosened the other end of the hose.
Then installed the new hose & axle. Due to the wear in the CV races, I made sure to flip the axle so that the CVs would have new surfaces to ride on.
_________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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jtauxe Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 5780 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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I like your style... Start deep in, get the mechanicals going, and do good work as you go. But oh, my, you have a lot more work ahead of you...
But once you commit, you've just got to go for it with full confidence that at the end of it, you will have a real running bus. Nice!
BTW, where did you get the window seal that accepts the trim? I have a '73 Wild Westerner that needs all new seals. And all new trim, too, though the clips that join the trim are in good shape and I think I can get replacement trim. _________________ John
"Travelling in a fried-out Kombi, on a hippie trail, head full of zombie..." - Colin Hay and Ron Strykert
http://vw.tauxe.net
1969 Transporter, 1971 Westfalia, 1976, 1977, 1976, 1977, 1971, 1973, 1977 Westfalias,
1979 Champagne Sunroof, 1974 Westfalia Automatic, 1979 Transporter, 1972 Sportsmobile, 1973 Transporter Wild Westerner, 1974 Westfalia parts bus, 1975 Mexican single cab *FOR SALE*, 1978 Irish 4-door double cab RHD
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: 1968 Deluxe resurrection |
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Thanks jtauxe.
I've learned that if I can at least drive it, I can do little bits at a time without being overwhelmed with a complete tear down. Eating that elephant one bite at a time. I don't care if it's ugly but I'm not going to sacrifice safety & dependability.
I got the windshield gasket from Rock Auto for $23 but it was the only option for gaskets they had. Wolfsburg West has all the gaskets with or without the grooves & has the trim too. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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