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74superTN Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:12 pm Post subject: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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So I checked out the search but couldn't find anything...What company is everyone using for rear spring plates? _________________ 73 Thing
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Bashr52 Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2006 Posts: 5666 Location: On an island in VA
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:27 am Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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Stock, just re-indexed. |
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74superTN Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:23 am Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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Bashr52 wrote: |
Stock, just re-indexed. |
Doesn't that ride like crap? _________________ 73 Thing
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50338
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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74superTN wrote: |
Bashr52 wrote: |
Stock, just re-indexed. |
Doesn't that ride like crap? |
What are you trying to accomplish? |
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GI Joe Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2005 Posts: 2012 Location: Athens, TN
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17285 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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74superTN wrote: |
Bashr52 wrote: |
Stock, just re-indexed. |
Doesn't that ride like crap? |
The ride is exactly the same as if you put some zig-zag spring plates on it. Don't fall for their marketing bullshit. _________________
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63ziggy Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2005 Posts: 1100 Location: The Woodlands, Texas
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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I went opposite with raised plates from Atomwerks. Essentially same as lowering plates they sell/sold. I got them early on in their days. No issues, retained stock ride function without the pre-load on torsions(re-indexing).
Note: The company had gone from independent seller to Mid America selling their products. With that said, there has been a ton of drama surrounding company etc. Not going there. not sure if they are still in business and selling.
it is basically a z-plate design |
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74superTN Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2007 Posts: 675 Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:53 am Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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I looked at AtomWerks website and I guess you have to call to make an order. I'm just looking to lower my rear to even out with my already installed beetle beam _________________ 73 Thing
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waxhead Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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I found a set in the classifieds and installed them on my '74. The advantage is that you can fine-tune the ride height a lot easier than messing around with re-indexing (which is what I tried initially). _________________ Mike B. |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:30 am Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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74superTN wrote: |
I looked at AtomWerks website and I guess you have to call to make an order. I'm just looking to lower my rear to even out with my already installed beetle beam |
As others said the effective geometry of lowering or raising plates is the same as the stock system. Your money would be better spent on new torsion tube bushings and reindexing the bars. |
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74superTN Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2007 Posts: 675 Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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Alright so AtomWerks looks to be out of question.....
Any other companies sell them? I just keep hearing that reindexing makes your Thing ride worse that spring plates _________________ 73 Thing
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74superTN Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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Perfect, thanks! _________________ 73 Thing
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Bashr52 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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74superTN wrote: |
Perfect, thanks! |
Are you talking about adjustable plates or those Z shaped "drop plates"? |
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74superTN Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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Bashr52 wrote: |
74superTN wrote: |
Perfect, thanks! |
Are you talking about adjustable plates or those Z shaped "drop plates"? |
Well I was talking about those Z shaped drop plates but it looks like those are out of the question. AtomWerks has gone out of business.... Adjustable plates and reindexing looks to be my only option _________________ 73 Thing
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74superTN Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2007 Posts: 675 Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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Ok so I lowered the rear of my Thing by adjusting splines. Is it normal for there to be no tension on the torsion bar after this? _________________ 73 Thing
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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74superTN wrote: |
Ok so I lowered the rear of my Thing by adjusting splines. Is it normal for there to be no tension on the torsion bar after this? |
Not sure what you are talking about. How many splines (inner and outer) did you change it by? A few of splines one way on the outer and a few the other way on the inner will make a big difference in ride height. |
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74superTN Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2007 Posts: 675 Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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Nevermind I'm dumb. I was talking about the preload but it's not preloaded anymore because I'm not resting on the stops. _________________ 73 Thing
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sidemarkers Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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From an IRS type 3 standpoint I recently switched to the atomwerks 3 inch drop plates. Keep in mind this is coming from someone who has driven daily for the better part of 25 years and indexed both raised and lowered with IRS. The improved ride quality and handling characteristics with the atomwerks plates vs stock plates indexing 2 splines is almost unbelievable. |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17285 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: Best place for rear lowering spring plates? |
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sidemarkers wrote: |
... is almost unbelievable. |
That's because there's no difference.
Any improvement is all in your mind. Or you did other changes at the same time.
The spring plate is only a connecting link between the torsion bar and the TA. The shape of this rigid connection is irrelevant. _________________
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