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DeVertible Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2013 Posts: 85 Location: Sequim, Washington
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:46 pm Post subject: The Invisible, Upper left Engine/Trans bolt |
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There has got to be a thread somewhere that covers " the secret method" for doing this but I can not get to the bolt to get the nut on no matter what - let alone start threading the nut on it. Clearly I must be missing something. The engine was already out when I started the project. Starter side, no problem, Oil cooler side - Well, I think I need a left-handed monkey. The engine went in like a piece of cake and three bolts cinched. The fourth is in another country. A lot different that a bug where you can reach from above and behind with the lid open . . .Thing experts Help please. Thanks |
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mondshine Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2006 Posts: 2770 Location: The World's Motor Capital
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Max Welton Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2003 Posts: 10697 Location: Black Forest, CO
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Ron Domeck Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2007 Posts: 1466 Location: louisville Ky
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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There is no nut to put on, it is just treads in the block. I take the left rear wheel off to get the bolt in. |
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Ron Domeck Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2007 Posts: 1466 Location: louisville Ky
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Is this a Thing engine? Dog house style? Older Beetle engines needs a nut on the engine side. |
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DeVertible Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2013 Posts: 85 Location: Sequim, Washington
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:48 pm Post subject: I am a happy man |
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Yes it is a Thing engine and I feel stupid but I do feel happy. All 4 bolts are cinched. Thank you guys so much!!! Little did I know that when I was having to turn that bolt to get it to go in did I realize It was actually screwing into the engine. I thought it was just like the bugs. I am eternally grateful. THANKS. YAHOO |
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Johnthemann Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2013 Posts: 66 Location: Southern Illinois
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:09 am Post subject: |
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wow this is perfect timing...I have ripped my garage apart looking for that 4th nut. I pulled the engine over a year ago and just now putting it back in..I even went to "No Value" and bought a replacement like the other 3
I have changed a number of bug engines when I was a kid and I remember having 4 nuts...Live and learn. Thanks for the post! |
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GMByers Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2008 Posts: 642 Location: Retired in NW PA
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: The Invisible, Upper left Engine/Trans bolt |
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What is the size/length of this particular bolt? Mine is missing.
Thanks _________________ And then there were two...downsized to 83 Doka &
74 Thing. |
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ldj1002 Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2015 Posts: 260
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Ron Domeck wrote: |
Is this a Thing engine? Dog house style? Older Beetle engines needs a nut on the engine side. |
What if you have a bug engine and you can't get there to put a nut on? |
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911pickup Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2004 Posts: 625 Location: Near Goats on the Roof
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: The Invisible, Upper left Engine/Trans bolt |
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Getting at the engine bolt that's located inside the engine bay, behind the shroud, is a real pain.A socket/ratchet won't fit, so I had to use a wrench, but the wrench was too short to get enough leverage to loosen the bolt. I ended up duct taping a piece of pipe on the end of the wrench to get more leverage.
So I won't have this problem again I ordered am extra long 17/19 ratchet wrench. |
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GMByers Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2008 Posts: 642 Location: Retired in NW PA
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:14 am Post subject: Re: The Invisible, Upper left Engine/Trans bolt |
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Did as Ron suggested above, removed driver side wheel. Easy access to reach in and install the invisible upper left engine/trans bolt. _________________ And then there were two...downsized to 83 Doka &
74 Thing. |
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BJT Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2018 Posts: 187
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:46 am Post subject: Re: The Invisible, Upper left Engine/Trans bolt |
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I’m going to add my stupid question to this, do both the driver’s side bolts go into a threaded hole in the engine block? Meaning neither of them need nuts? |
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sjbartnik Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2011 Posts: 5998 Location: Brooklyn
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:36 am Post subject: |
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ldj1002 wrote: |
Ron Domeck wrote: |
Is this a Thing engine? Dog house style? Older Beetle engines needs a nut on the engine side. |
What if you have a bug engine and you can't get there to put a nut on? |
Bug engines that came with a doghouse fan shroud also have the threaded insert. Older ones don't. _________________ 1965 Volkswagen 1500 Variant S
2000 Kawasaki W650 |
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sjbartnik Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2011 Posts: 5998 Location: Brooklyn
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:36 am Post subject: Re: The Invisible, Upper left Engine/Trans bolt |
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BJT wrote: |
I’m going to add my stupid question to this, do both the driver’s side bolts go into a threaded hole in the engine block? Meaning neither of them need nuts? |
No, right side uses a nut. You can get your hand in forward of the fan shroud to start it. _________________ 1965 Volkswagen 1500 Variant S
2000 Kawasaki W650 |
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BJT Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2018 Posts: 187
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:08 am Post subject: Re: The Invisible, Upper left Engine/Trans bolt |
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I got the passenger (right side) two nuts on, the lower stud and the upper bolt through the starter. I’m just asking about the upper and lower of the driver’s (left side) thanks. |
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sjbartnik Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2011 Posts: 5998 Location: Brooklyn
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:40 am Post subject: Re: The Invisible, Upper left Engine/Trans bolt |
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BJT wrote: |
I got the passenger (right side) two nuts on, the lower stud and the upper bolt through the starter. I’m just asking about the upper and lower of the driver’s (left side) thanks. |
Not sure what you mean, the lower on the left side is a nut on a stud, identical to the right side.
Upper one on the left side is a bolt with a threaded insert in the case.
Though it's not strictly necessary, I have found that removing the rear wheels makes reaching everything in that area much easier. _________________ 1965 Volkswagen 1500 Variant S
2000 Kawasaki W650 |
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BJT Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2018 Posts: 187
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: The Invisible, Upper left Engine/Trans bolt |
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I must have a different case, I think it’s a bus case. I only have one stud in my case, the lower passenger’s side. The other three are bolts |
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BJT Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2018 Posts: 187
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: The Invisible, Upper left Engine/Trans bolt |
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Figured out the issue, apparently the PO has removed the driver’s side lower stud and just ran a bolt into the threads in the case. I didn’t realize that there are supposed to be studs on BOTH the lower mounts |
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