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DeVertible
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:46 pm    Post subject: The Invisible, Upper left Engine/Trans bolt Reply with quote

There has got to be a thread somewhere that covers " the secret method" for doing this but I can not get to the bolt to get the nut on no matter what - let alone start threading the nut on it. Clearly I must be missing something. The engine was already out when I started the project. Starter side, no problem, Oil cooler side - Well, I think I need a left-handed monkey. The engine went in like a piece of cake and three bolts cinched. The fourth is in another country. A lot different that a bug where you can reach from above and behind with the lid open . . .Thing experts Help please. Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The engine mount fastener on the upper driver's side is an M10 bolt which is installed from under the car. The bolt is inserted right behind the clutch arm into a threaded insert in the engine case. A 17mm swivel socket and a 12" extension makes it easy.
Here are some photos from the gallery:
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There is no access to this bolt from inside the engine compartment.

These are fun to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_s7x_etYgs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgSxzVr0qPc&lis...ature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ8oXfKW64k
http://www.justkampers.com/videos/watch/refitting_an_engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAb5uHnXgSU

Good luck, Mondshine
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no nut to put on, it is just treads in the block. I take the left rear wheel off to get the bolt in.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a Thing engine? Dog house style? Older Beetle engines needs a nut on the engine side.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:48 pm    Post subject: I am a happy man Reply with quote

Yes it is a Thing engine and I feel stupid but I do feel happy. All 4 bolts are cinched. Thank you guys so much!!! Little did I know that when I was having to turn that bolt to get it to go in did I realize It was actually screwing into the engine. I thought it was just like the bugs. I am eternally grateful. THANKS. YAHOO
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow this is perfect timing...I have ripped my garage apart looking for that 4th nut. I pulled the engine over a year ago and just now putting it back in..I even went to "No Value" and bought a replacement like the other 3 Shocked

I have changed a number of bug engines when I was a kid and I remember having 4 nuts...Live and learn. Thanks for the post!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: The Invisible, Upper left Engine/Trans bolt Reply with quote

What is the size/length of this particular bolt? Mine is missing.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron Domeck wrote:
Is this a Thing engine? Dog house style? Older Beetle engines needs a nut on the engine side.


What if you have a bug engine and you can't get there to put a nut on?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: The Invisible, Upper left Engine/Trans bolt Reply with quote

Getting at the engine bolt that's located inside the engine bay, behind the shroud, is a real pain.A socket/ratchet won't fit, so I had to use a wrench, but the wrench was too short to get enough leverage to loosen the bolt. I ended up duct taping a piece of pipe on the end of the wrench to get more leverage.

So I won't have this problem again I ordered am extra long 17/19 ratchet wrench.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:14 am    Post subject: Re: The Invisible, Upper left Engine/Trans bolt Reply with quote

Did as Ron suggested above, removed driver side wheel. Easy access to reach in and install the invisible upper left engine/trans bolt.
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