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tobiism Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2004 Posts: 502 Location: Chandler AZ
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:42 pm Post subject: Building a ball joint baja- question about preload |
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Hello! I'm building a baja out of a 67. Will be ball joint front with thing spindles and arms and class 11 Bilstein reservoir 7100 shocks front back(IRS rear)
With the thing beams I am already getting some needed ground clearance. Will I still need to cut and turn the front end to add preload? The bilstein rep told me those shocks are going to keep things a bit stiff up front already.
I prefer the front end be able to travel up and down equally and not be limited on the droop because of preload, but I always hear of people cutting and turning, even with raised spindles. Thoughts?
Thanks!!! _________________ "There has never been a genius without a hint of madness."
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Mal evolent Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2009 Posts: 2912 Location: San Antonio, Nuevo Mexico
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Building a ball joint baja- question about preload |
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IMHO the raise you get from Thing spindles is as high as you can go without widening the beam. Any more and you will get a chance to test your roll cage.
3" is my personal limit. If you go higher, go wider. _________________ 73 Beetle Baja, Ghia front brakes, Type 3 rear brakes, 2220 ( 94 X 80 ), Weber Progressive, Bosch SVDA, '97 Mustang seats
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tobiism Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: Building a ball joint baja- question about preload |
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Mal evolent wrote: |
IMHO the raise you get from Thing spindles is as high as you can go without widening the beam. Any more and you will get a chance to test your roll cage.
3" is my personal limit. If you go higher, go wider. |
Thank you for responding but I think you must understand. I'm not looking to go any higher. My question is, is the preload necessary once you're already at the ride height that you like? _________________ "There has never been a genius without a hint of madness."
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oldschool5er Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2007 Posts: 804 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: Building a ball joint baja- question about preload |
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I use to race on Thing beams in Score and I felt no need to cut and turn them. I used Bilsteins and stock Thing spring packs with sway-a-way additional spring inserts. I have two ex race cars with Thing beams I just use for recreational and those beams are set up the same way. I use hard stops for droop and upper limits on modded German ball joints. |
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tobiism Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2004 Posts: 502 Location: Chandler AZ
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Building a ball joint baja- question about preload |
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oldschool5er wrote: |
I use to race on Thing beams in Score and I felt no need to cut and turn them. I used Bilsteins and stock Thing spring packs with sway-a-way additional spring inserts. I have two ex race cars with Thing beams I just use for recreational and those beams are set up the same way. I use hard stops for droop and upper limits on modded German ball joints. |
Thank you! I think I'll be good then. Appreciate it!! _________________ "There has never been a genius without a hint of madness."
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dirtkeeper Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: Building a ball joint baja- question about preload |
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When I built mine, thing spindles and thing springs that are stiffer than bug ,I also added the adjusters too so I Could tune the ride appropriately.
I have it turned up I think about 1/2" or so and the ride is good. But have a heavy full body bug full of gear most of the time. A light baja probably doesn't need any additional preload. |
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tobiism Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2004 Posts: 502 Location: Chandler AZ
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: Building a ball joint baja- question about preload |
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dirtkeeper wrote: |
When I built mine, thing spindles and thing springs that are stiffer than bug ,I also added the adjusters too so I Could tune the ride appropriately.
I have it turned up I think about 1/2" or so and the ride is good. But have a heavy full body bug full of gear most of the time. A light baja probably doesn't need any additional preload. |
Thanks for the info, my bug will be pretty heavy as well. _________________ "There has never been a genius without a hint of madness."
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