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Notch_Norway Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2017 Posts: 41 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:03 am Post subject: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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Hey!
Im looking to buy a 62 SC here in Norway.
I first tought it was a 60/61 because it has the bullet indicators and the small taillights, but its from august 62. So it shouldent have them as far as i know. And the owner is not quit sure either, who or when this was done.
First question: Will this devalue the car alot? I personally prefer 60 lights, but i dont like when its made to look older then it is. So i guess most of us are that way
Second question: Is there any other way you can tell its a 62 from a 61 or 60?
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sixtyonecrew Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2015 Posts: 113 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:45 am Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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Bus Chassis # 802 986 (1962 model year) should have started the larger rear tail lights on buses...
Prior to that Chassis # they should have the small round tail lights...
The production month of August usually starts the next model year bus.
It sounds like that bus is right on the bubble?!
Buses that grew up in Europe were often up-dated to larger tail and turn lights for safety inspections.
What is the Chassis #? |
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GTV Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 2084 Location: Si'ahl
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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sixtyonecrew wrote: |
Buses that grew up in Europe were often up-dated to larger tail and turn lights for safety inspections.
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Busses in Europe came with bullets through 1963. _________________ EMPI Power Rules! |
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Notch_Norway Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2017 Posts: 41 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:27 am Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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Thanks for answering
I dont have the chassis right now. I should get it soon and post it here.
Yeah august is late and should have pancake indicators and bigger tailights. But it might just be one of the last ones with small lights.
And yes totally agree with you that europe cars usually get the bigger lights first:/ |
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Notch_Norway Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2017 Posts: 41 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:16 am Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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GTV wrote: |
sixtyonecrew wrote: |
Buses that grew up in Europe were often up-dated to larger tail and turn lights for safety inspections.
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Busses in Europe came with bullets through 1963. |
Oh really?
Can i ask how you know that for a fact?
Just so i know what im potentially buying. |
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GTV Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 2084 Location: Si'ahl
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:28 am Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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Notch_Norway wrote: |
GTV wrote: |
sixtyonecrew wrote: |
Buses that grew up in Europe were often up-dated to larger tail and turn lights for safety inspections.
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Busses in Europe came with bullets through 1963. |
Oh really?
Can i ask how you know that for a fact?
Just so i know what im potentially buying. |
Ohh you know, I just make shit up as I go along 😉
It's on here somewhere, but I can't find it. I must not be using the right key words. _________________ EMPI Power Rules! |
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GTV Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 2084 Location: Si'ahl
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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Clara wrote: |
from 62 owners manual:
This bus has euro lights.
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_________________ EMPI Power Rules! |
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sixtyonecrew Samba Member
Joined: October 15, 2015 Posts: 113 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:17 am Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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GTV wrote: |
sixtyonecrew wrote: |
Buses that grew up in Europe were often up-dated to larger tail and turn lights for safety inspections.
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Busses in Europe came with bullets through 1963. |
I've got to throw the flag on that one GTV! |
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Notch_Norway Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2017 Posts: 41 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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GTV wrote: |
Clara wrote: |
from 62 owners manual:
This bus has euro lights.
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That bus has the bullets up front, but the larger taillights. The one im looking at has the bullet up front and the small round ones in the rear. |
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ingenbremser Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2008 Posts: 197 Location: Gjøvik, Norway
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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jeg har en sept 58 panel, den har små blink foran, å små runde baklykter den er orginalt levert slik. husk at eurospec ikke er så godt belyst i us ... man kunne bestille blink foran i stedet for piler fra 58 i Europa . _________________ 52 split |
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GTV Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 2084 Location: Si'ahl
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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Notch_Norway wrote: |
GTV wrote: |
Clara wrote: |
from 62 owners manual:
This bus has euro lights.
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That bus has the bullets up front, but the larger taillights. The one im looking at has the bullet up front and the small round ones in the rear. |
Yes, I know. That's how they came in Europe 62-63.
The VIN or M code plate will tell all. _________________ EMPI Power Rules! |
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GTV Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 2084 Location: Si'ahl
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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sixtyonecrew wrote: |
GTV wrote: |
sixtyonecrew wrote: |
Buses that grew up in Europe were often up-dated to larger tail and turn lights for safety inspections.
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Busses in Europe came with bullets through 1963. |
I've got to throw the flag on that one GTV! |
Which flag would that be? _________________ EMPI Power Rules! |
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G-wood Todd Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2005 Posts: 1047 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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Wrong taillights might devalue a nice original bus a little. But it would not keep me from buying a bus. If you do believe it has been hacked, I would inspect the rest very closely. _________________ and take the kids for instance "Are we going in the Volkswagen bus?" and they say "Yay!" and clap their hands and if it's a glorious day you can slide the sunroof back and let a little of the glory in and all of a sudden, it stops looking funny.
-Volkswagen ad |
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Notch_Norway Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2017 Posts: 41 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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ingenbremser wrote: |
jeg har en sept 58 panel, den har små blink foran, å små runde baklykter den er orginalt levert slik. husk at eurospec ikke er så godt belyst i us ... man kunne bestille blink foran i stedet for piler fra 58 i Europa . |
Ja dette er jeg klar over. Men skiftet fra småblink skulle vært ca 61.
Derfor det er litt rart med en august 62 med små runde baklamper
og bullets fremme.
Men får vel chassinummer snart så får vi se.
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Notch_Norway Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2017 Posts: 41 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:27 pm Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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G-wood Todd wrote: |
Wrong taillights might devalue a nice original bus a little. But it would not keep me from buying a bus. If you do believe it has been hacked, I would inspect the rest very closely. |
Okay thanks, man! |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22648 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:55 am Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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Notch_Norway wrote: |
GTV wrote: |
sixtyonecrew wrote: |
Buses that grew up in Europe were often up-dated to larger tail and turn lights for safety inspections.
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Busses in Europe came with bullets through 1963. |
Oh really?
Can i ask how you know that for a fact?
Just so i know what im potentially buying. |
You have to know these things to be a King. _________________ .ssS! |
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Notch_Norway Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2017 Posts: 41 Location: Norway
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:03 am Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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Hello again!
Another SC and another m-code for you guys
873289.
This was sold as a 63 to Norway and is in the prosess of getting plates here in Norway.
But that number is from november 61 to 62 is it not? And this car has the pancake indicators, and larger taillights.
If a car was registered first in 63 in the states was it then a 63 model?
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easy e Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2008 Posts: 3931 Location: 1 hr north of Santa Barbara
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:04 am Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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873XXX = early December 1961
The number in The Table next to the month is for the last unit produced that month.
"If a car was registered first in 63 in the states was it then a 63 model?"
If first registered in '63... it could be earlier than '63 or later than '63.
Based only on the year of first registration... any bus registered in 1963 is most likely '62, '63 or '64 model.
Read this about Model Year vs Production Year. _________________ aka: Evan
Spreadsheet for Bus RPM, based on gearing & tire size (Excel format)
Searchable, click-navigable 1958 Bus Parts List |
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Notch_Norway Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2017 Posts: 41 Location: Norway
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:22 am Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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Perfect reply Thanks.
So if i understand this correctly this car should be in theory a 62 model since it was produced the last month of 61. But there seems to be no rule of this as you say. Same here in Norway.
I need to check the entire m-plate to see if the model etc is correct also |
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easy e Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2008 Posts: 3931 Location: 1 hr north of Santa Barbara
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? |
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Correct.... model year = 1962
"seems to be no rule" --> There is VW produced information supporting "the rule" I pointed you to... maybe read the entire first post of the linked thread (in my last post). _________________ aka: Evan
Spreadsheet for Bus RPM, based on gearing & tire size (Excel format)
Searchable, click-navigable 1958 Bus Parts List |
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