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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:03 am    Post subject: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

Hey!

Im looking to buy a 62 SC here in Norway.

I first tought it was a 60/61 because it has the bullet indicators and the small taillights, but its from august 62. So it shouldent have them as far as i know. And the owner is not quit sure either, who or when this was done.

First question: Will this devalue the car alot? I personally prefer 60 lights, but i dont like when its made to look older then it is. So i guess most of us are that way Smile

Second question: Is there any other way you can tell its a 62 from a 61 or 60?

Thanks! Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:45 am    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

Bus Chassis # 802 986 (1962 model year) should have started the larger rear tail lights on buses...
Prior to that Chassis # they should have the small round tail lights...
The production month of August usually starts the next model year bus.

It sounds like that bus is right on the bubble?!

Buses that grew up in Europe were often up-dated to larger tail and turn lights for safety inspections.

What is the Chassis #?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:22 am    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

sixtyonecrew wrote:

Buses that grew up in Europe were often up-dated to larger tail and turn lights for safety inspections.


Busses in Europe came with bullets through 1963.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:27 am    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

Thanks for answering Smile

I dont have the chassis right now. I should get it soon and post it here.

Yeah august is late and should have pancake indicators and bigger tailights. But it might just be one of the last ones with small lights.

And yes totally agree with you that europe cars usually get the bigger lights first:/
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

GTV wrote:
sixtyonecrew wrote:

Buses that grew up in Europe were often up-dated to larger tail and turn lights for safety inspections.


Busses in Europe came with bullets through 1963.


Oh really?

Can i ask how you know that for a fact? Smile

Just so i know what im potentially buying.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

Notch_Norway wrote:
GTV wrote:
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Buses that grew up in Europe were often up-dated to larger tail and turn lights for safety inspections.


Busses in Europe came with bullets through 1963.


Oh really?

Can i ask how you know that for a fact? Smile

Just so i know what im potentially buying.


Ohh you know, I just make shit up as I go along 😉

It's on here somewhere, but I can't find it. I must not be using the right key words.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:33 am    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

Clara wrote:
from 62 owners manual:
This bus has euro lights.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

GTV wrote:
sixtyonecrew wrote:

Buses that grew up in Europe were often up-dated to larger tail and turn lights for safety inspections.


Busses in Europe came with bullets through 1963.


I've got to throw the flag on that one GTV! Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

GTV wrote:
Clara wrote:
from 62 owners manual:
This bus has euro lights.
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That bus has the bullets up front, but the larger taillights. The one im looking at has the bullet up front and the small round ones in the rear.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

jeg har en sept 58 panel, den har små blink foran, å små runde baklykter den er orginalt levert slik. husk at eurospec ikke er så godt belyst i us ... man kunne bestille blink foran i stedet for piler fra 58 i Europa .
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

Notch_Norway wrote:
GTV wrote:
Clara wrote:
from 62 owners manual:
This bus has euro lights.
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That bus has the bullets up front, but the larger taillights. The one im looking at has the bullet up front and the small round ones in the rear.


Yes, I know. That's how they came in Europe 62-63.

The VIN or M code plate will tell all.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

sixtyonecrew wrote:
GTV wrote:
sixtyonecrew wrote:

Buses that grew up in Europe were often up-dated to larger tail and turn lights for safety inspections.


Busses in Europe came with bullets through 1963.


I've got to throw the flag on that one GTV! Cool


Which flag would that be?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

Wrong taillights might devalue a nice original bus a little. But it would not keep me from buying a bus. If you do believe it has been hacked, I would inspect the rest very closely.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

ingenbremser wrote:
jeg har en sept 58 panel, den har små blink foran, å små runde baklykter den er orginalt levert slik. husk at eurospec ikke er så godt belyst i us ... man kunne bestille blink foran i stedet for piler fra 58 i Europa .


Ja dette er jeg klar over. Men skiftet fra småblink skulle vært ca 61.

Derfor det er litt rart med en august 62 med små runde baklamper
og bullets fremme.
Men får vel chassinummer snart så får vi se.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

G-wood Todd wrote:
Wrong taillights might devalue a nice original bus a little. But it would not keep me from buying a bus. If you do believe it has been hacked, I would inspect the rest very closely.


Okay thanks, man! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:55 am    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

Notch_Norway wrote:
GTV wrote:
sixtyonecrew wrote:

Buses that grew up in Europe were often up-dated to larger tail and turn lights for safety inspections.


Busses in Europe came with bullets through 1963.


Oh really?

Can i ask how you know that for a fact? Smile

Just so i know what im potentially buying.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:03 am    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

Hello again!

Another SC and another m-code for you guys Smile

873289.

This was sold as a 63 to Norway and is in the prosess of getting plates here in Norway.

But that number is from november 61 to 62 is it not? And this car has the pancake indicators, and larger taillights.

If a car was registered first in 63 in the states was it then a 63 model?

Thanks Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:04 am    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

873XXX = early December 1961

The number in The Table next to the month is for the last unit produced that month.

"If a car was registered first in 63 in the states was it then a 63 model?"

If first registered in '63... it could be earlier than '63 or later than '63.
Based only on the year of first registration... any bus registered in 1963 is most likely '62, '63 or '64 model.
Read this about Model Year vs Production Year.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:22 am    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

Perfect reply Smile Thanks.

So if i understand this correctly this car should be in theory a 62 model since it was produced the last month of 61. But there seems to be no rule of this as you say. Same here in Norway.

I need to check the entire m-plate to see if the model etc is correct also Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: Devalued if the taillights has been changed? Diff from 60-62? Reply with quote

Correct.... model year = 1962

"seems to be no rule" --> There is VW produced information supporting "the rule" I pointed you to... maybe read the entire first post of the linked thread (in my last post).
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