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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 1:03 am    Post subject: Re: How Does "Headbanger" Attach? Reply with quote

I may be able to help a little here??

I have the exact same set up in my Westfalia as in your first link, mine is a 73 though....
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This picture shows the bolt above the wardrobe going into the headbanger as shown in the manual previously posted on page 18. (Below the speaker wires).

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This picture shows the the tab on the drivers side rear above the window, looks like it attaches behind the steel that holds the wood headliner in.....
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Sorry about the pretty poor pics ( dark in the garage) if you need some better ones and some measurements just let me know.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: How Does "Headbanger" Attach? Reply with quote

EXCELLENT. That's what I need- thanks very much! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: How Does "Headbanger" Attach? Reply with quote

Its in the owners manual as well to a certain degree.


https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/manuals70westy.php


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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: How Does "Headbanger" Attach? Reply with quote

OK, made it through that. Thanks for all the help. What I did not mention is that the side cabinet is Riviera but the head banger is Westy...

Why did I not mention it, you ask? Because everyone would tell me it was impossible but I don't know what that word means. Laughing

In case you're wondering... yes, all the cabinets have been faced and finished to match.

Now I have yet another curveball dilemma. The owner has decided to go with Westfalia rear bed hinges rather than Riviera, which I can see presents a whole new round of problem solving I just wasn't prepared for, esp. as the cabinets I built for behind the front seats ( sink/ fridge and jump seat) have been made slightly larger to accommodate Riviera rather than Westy appliances... so now I am wondering if the table will fit or not among many other things. Brick wall

So... next request:

Could someone with a Bay Westy tell me how long (top to bottom and rear to front) the Westy bed cushions are, and how thick? Length side to side I will have to adjust to fit the wider Riviera side cabinet so I am not worried about that.

Also- What are the dimensions- width and length- on the arm rest? Looks like I need to build a different one.

Thanks again. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 12:17 pm    Post subject: Re: How Does "Headbanger" Attach? Reply with quote

Did the guy just give you westy hinges? I ask because the Westfalia uses the box - pedestal as its base, then bolted to it and the floor. If I recall correct a Rivi uses a true Z bed which is hinges with a base separate of any cabinet?


Oh and I know of something that seems impossible to finish........... Razz Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 12:25 pm    Post subject: Re: How Does "Headbanger" Attach? Reply with quote

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Did the guy just give you westy hinges? I ask because the Westfalia uses the box - pedestal as its base, then bolted to it and the floor. If I recall correct a Rivi uses a true Z bed which is hinges with a base separate of any cabinet?


Oh and I know of something that seems impossible to finish........... Razz Laughing


Yes, I am honing my fabrication skills on this guinea pig to do something completely different over this winter.

I know about the box/ pedestal and I can fabricate that up, but it too will be shorter with the passenger side of the "box" not cut out for the inner fender well, as the wider Riv side cabinet completely covers it.

Hey... assuming all Westy hinges are created equal, could you get me those cushion measurements from "our" '77? If memory serves the armrest is on the opposite side on the '77, though, correct?

I'm glad you took great care of that Bus, by the way, and I'm sure my old pal Dr. Nina McCoy, PhD. (RIP) is, too. Very Happy

Oh, and whilst we have the egg spurt in the thread... is an early Bay front engine firewall tin different than a Beetle?
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: How Does "Headbanger" Attach? Reply with quote

Ill measure up the 77 tonight and send pics. Have you seen it lately? Its an amazing driver now. Amazing over what it was and other stock buses especially in the performance zone Twisted Evil

Ill be down to Maupin Fathers day.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: How Does "Headbanger" Attach? Reply with quote

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Ill measure up the 77 tonight and send pics. Have you seen it lately? Its an amazing driver now. Amazing over what it was and other stock buses especially in the performance zone Twisted Evil

Ill be down to Maupin Fathers day.


I have seen it... check in on your thread once in awhile... I want it back! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: How Does "Headbanger" Attach? Reply with quote

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Hey... assuming all Westy hinges are created equal, could you get me those cushion measurements from "our" '77? If memory serves the armrest is on the opposite side on the '77, though, correct?

There's at least 3 different style of bed mechanisms for NA delivered Westfalia, are they black?, or grey?, foldy scissorlike mechanism?, or arms that slide in slots on a plate on each side?

As for the flywheel tin a beetle one leaves gaps on the top corners, early bay is a beetle tin with bonus ears welded on so it's straight across the top.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 4:21 pm    Post subject: Re: How Does "Headbanger" Attach? Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
Tram wrote:
Hey... assuming all Westy hinges are created equal, could you get me those cushion measurements from "our" '77? If memory serves the armrest is on the opposite side on the '77, though, correct?

There's at least 3 different style of bed mechanisms for NA delivered Westfalia, are they black?, or grey?, foldy scissorlike mechanism?, or arms that slide in slots on a plate on each side?

As for the flywheel tin a beetle one leaves gaps on the top corners, early bay is a beetle tin with bonus ears welded on so it's straight across the top.


Well... that just figures. Rolling Eyes

I'm pretty sure they're grey, but as to the exact mechanism, no clue. They are supposed to be here tomorrow. We'll see.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: How Does "Headbanger" Attach? Reply with quote

Tram wrote:
busdaddy wrote:
Tram wrote:
Hey... assuming all Westy hinges are created equal, could you get me those cushion measurements from "our" '77? If memory serves the armrest is on the opposite side on the '77, though, correct?

There's at least 3 different style of bed mechanisms for NA delivered Westfalia, are they black?, or grey?, foldy scissorlike mechanism?, or arms that slide in slots on a plate on each side?

As for the flywheel tin a beetle one leaves gaps on the top corners, early bay is a beetle tin with bonus ears welded on so it's straight across the top.


Well... that just figures. Rolling Eyes

I'm pretty sure they're grey, but as to the exact mechanism, no clue. They are supposed to be here tomorrow. We'll see.



Send a pic turkey.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: How Does "Headbanger" Attach? Reply with quote

notchboy wrote:
Tram wrote:
busdaddy wrote:
Tram wrote:
Hey... assuming all Westy hinges are created equal, could you get me those cushion measurements from "our" '77? If memory serves the armrest is on the opposite side on the '77, though, correct?

There's at least 3 different style of bed mechanisms for NA delivered Westfalia, are they black?, or grey?, foldy scissorlike mechanism?, or arms that slide in slots on a plate on each side?

As for the flywheel tin a beetle one leaves gaps on the top corners, early bay is a beetle tin with bonus ears welded on so it's straight across the top.


Well... that just figures. Rolling Eyes

I'm pretty sure they're grey, but as to the exact mechanism, no clue. They are supposed to be here tomorrow. We'll see.



Send a pic turkey.


I can't till the hinges get here.
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