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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just installed Thing ball joints from CIP1 into a friends Thing arms and I was NOT happy with the quality. He brought me the joints so I didn't say to much and installed them anyway. It is NOT the same quality as Meyle or other German ones that I have installed dozens of times. For one thing they were 360 degree directional meaning that it didn't matter on how you installed them as they would pivot in any direction and had not any extra metal covering over the ball. The German ones even though one direction only, have a much beefer cup that partially covers over the ball of the pivot joint which I like much better. On the lower arm it is not only the lower shock stud that is different they also have thicker walls in the spigot that goes into the beam. I think it is always better to use all Thing arms with thing joints, unless you have no choice.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Upper / lower ball joints Reply with quote

First off, this is the best Thing ball joint thread ever!!!

I still have a question though. I also bought the CB Performance dropped spindle and disk brake kit to lower my Thing... Do you have to install new beetle ball joints if your Thing's ball joints are in good shape? Will the beetle drop spindle mount on the Thing ball joints?
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Upper / lower ball joints Reply with quote

I think the taper is bigger on the Thing joints.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Upper / lower ball joints Reply with quote

You do know the arms both install from the top and the beetle one up and one down?
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Upper / lower ball joints Reply with quote

lol.... When you say bigger, do you mean longer, or wider?

I don't know anything... By the arms being upside down, that shouldn't affect the installation of the new spindles? or can you swap the left side with the right side arms? would that fix the issue?
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Upper / lower ball joints Reply with quote

The taper is bigger dia. The lower ball joints would be upside down in the spindle. Maybe I am wrong. Go back and read this whole tread. Easy way is to get beetle arms and sell your Thing ones for 2 or 3 times what you will pay for beetle arms. Also if you flip the arms the angle of the ball joints will not be the same.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 4:36 am    Post subject: Re: Upper / lower ball joints Reply with quote

Ok, I just reread the post.... I can install my Beetle drop spindles on the Thing as long as I use beetle radius ball joints installed like a bug, and beetle camber adjusters?
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Upper / lower ball joints Reply with quote

Yes, bug upper and lower ball joints with bug camber adjusters. But as has been mentioned bug arms are a dime a dozen so just use those in your Thing beam and sell the Thing arms to someone that can use them in a Thing. I just paid $150 for a nice set with unrusted clean spigots.
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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 10:38 am    Post subject: Re: Upper / lower ball joints Reply with quote

Took your advise and called BuggyMan! Of course he had a set of Beetle arms!!! Now its time to take out the old ball joints and put the new ones in! I'd like to post up a few pics in the coming weeks for others to see and learn from... Is that cool?

Also, question... You said I can sell my old Thing arms, and spindles. What do they usually go for, and how much do you think I can sell them for? I'd love to get a few dollars back!
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: Upper / lower ball joints Reply with quote

I had the ball joints replaced o n my 'new' 74 Thing. One of the ball joints was a beetle ball joint, so I had to get a new eccentric from The Thing Shop. Everything is fine now.
I guess I should have looked more carefully when I got my second Thing, the cost of a front end build was just a little bit less than a grand!

But now it runs a steers and brakes great.

I have to decide whether to take the 74 with a standard engine, hard top and VWoA roof-rack, or my off road Thing with the bug 2054 motor and bikini top, to Kubeltreffen West.
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